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G&L?
Mar 7, 2006 20:14:18 GMT -7
Post by flem on Mar 7, 2006 20:14:18 GMT -7
Anyone tried any G&L electrics? I'm looking at a Legacy, plays nice, sounds good. Anyone own one or any other models? Any thoughts about the brand good or bad?
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Mar 8, 2006 6:22:32 GMT -7
Post by billyguitar on Mar 8, 2006 6:22:32 GMT -7
I'm interested ina G & L too. Try to buy used. They seem to take an awful hit on resale value.
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Mar 8, 2006 6:26:44 GMT -7
Post by bluzsteel on Mar 8, 2006 6:26:44 GMT -7
I had a few ,they were to bright for me , didnt jack with changing pickups
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Mar 8, 2006 7:12:51 GMT -7
Post by zdogma on Mar 8, 2006 7:12:51 GMT -7
I had an old skyhawk (like a legacy) with the magnetic field adjustable polepieces (from the Leo days) and it was a pretty good guitar, but you couldn't change the pickups, the routed holes were too small, which was a pain.
Mine had a 7.25 fingerboard, too, which I didn't like. So watch out for some of the used ones.
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Mar 8, 2006 8:14:12 GMT -7
Post by Curt on Mar 8, 2006 8:14:12 GMT -7
I had a '96 ASAT special for a LONG time, 9 years or so, it was my only Guit then. An absolute Beaut of an axe. Yes it was 7.25 BUT with the jumbo frets it is not a problem. It had the P-90 sized pups and was a killer sounding guitar, light solid, very well built.
Why did I sell it? ONLY because as I started gigging more, and being over 40 with on set of carpel tunnel, my hand would fatigue and go numb due to the thin profile of the neck, not the guitars fault, my broken down abused body's fault. The newer one's I've played have had a much fuller neck.
G&L's are quality guitars and an absolute steal on the used market @ $500/$600, $1200 or so new is a fair price for the quality but hard to pay whith the used ones priced as they are.
I would have to play one as I am waaayyyy picky about a neck, other then that, I've never seen quality issues with them.
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Mar 8, 2006 8:25:23 GMT -7
Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 8, 2006 8:25:23 GMT -7
I've always wanted a G&L but it has just never come around to that. Probably won't be able to now that my guitar stable is pretty full here...
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Mar 8, 2006 8:47:45 GMT -7
Post by pickupcentral on Mar 8, 2006 8:47:45 GMT -7
I've got a G&L S-500 that I haven't used much recently as it has been at another house for a couple of years. Still it is a great guitar. I haven't had the neck issues that Tele62 had - the neck is fairly chunky. It has the ash body and the MFD pickups, which are actually very nice sounding pickups. This guitar has never met my Ghia, so that will be way cool.
The G&Ls are IMHO a better Fender for the most part. The guitar plays well, sounds great, and is built well with good materials. I would say that it is the best "Strat" I have.
-Phil
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Mar 8, 2006 9:28:15 GMT -7
Post by flem on Mar 8, 2006 9:28:15 GMT -7
Well I did it, I've been playing the guitar on and off for a couple months at the store and I finally bought it.
Not a regular legacy tho, this one had a fattter C shape neck more like an ASAT/Tele thicker neck. I tried the Legacy's with the thinner necks very close to new fender strat necks but they didn't do it for me.
I tried a cpl late 70's strats at a used shop with similiar necks but the playability wasn't there and I didn't want to bring home a guitar just to bring it into the local tech to get refurbished.
Through my 6545 and Zbest ab it doesn't sound overly bright at all, except the bridge, but I could rewire a tone for that pickup by itself and roll it down a notch.
I'm quite happy with this guitar, just want to change the pickups to a noiseless single coil. Any suggestions?
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Mar 8, 2006 12:22:03 GMT -7
Post by billyguitar on Mar 8, 2006 12:22:03 GMT -7
Cool guitar I'm sure. Kinman's would probably fit?
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Mar 8, 2006 12:27:14 GMT -7
Post by Curt on Mar 8, 2006 12:27:14 GMT -7
I have a set of Kinman tele pups, AVN-60's, quiet they are !
For sale too if anyone's interested.....
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Mar 8, 2006 12:59:46 GMT -7
Post by bluzpower on Mar 8, 2006 12:59:46 GMT -7
I love em. I've got a G-200 that regularly eats Les Pauls and PRSs! I always tell anyone considering one not to run the tone controls full out. I always start out with em turned all the way down and adjust upwards. It's easy to dial in a good tone that way.
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Mar 8, 2006 20:28:20 GMT -7
Post by prowler on Mar 8, 2006 20:28:20 GMT -7
Used a Legacy for a while. All in all a nice guitar. I'd like to get another one at some point however I'm really eyeing an Anderson or a Lentz Strat.
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Mar 10, 2006 9:37:21 GMT -7
Post by guitarman1 on Mar 10, 2006 9:37:21 GMT -7
Yes, I've owned a Legacy & 2 ASAT Classics. Great fit & finish. Much better than current Fender production stuff. Don't buy new, or you'll loose allot on resale. These generally sell at 50% or so of what you will pay new.
They are a steal at their used prices.
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Mar 16, 2006 17:08:48 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2006 17:08:48 GMT -7
Through my 6545 and Zbest ab it doesn't sound overly bright at all, except the bridge, but I could rewire a tone for that pickup by itself and roll it down a notch. I'm quite happy with this guitar, just want to change the pickups to a noiseless single coil. Any suggestions? flem, congrats on the new guit-fiddle. I've found the bridge to be bright as well. It's pretty easy to tame with the "Passive Treble Bass" tone controls. Just dial out some highs with the tone control nearest the volume knob.
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Mar 17, 2006 6:50:15 GMT -7
Post by guitarman1 on Mar 17, 2006 6:50:15 GMT -7
Well I did it, I've been playing the guitar on and off for a couple months at the store and I finally bought it. Not a regular legacy tho, this one had a fattter C shape neck more like an ASAT/Tele thicker neck. I tried the Legacy's with the thinner necks very close to new fender strat necks but they didn't do it for me. I tried a cpl late 70's strats at a used shop with similiar necks but the playability wasn't there and I didn't want to bring home a guitar just to bring it into the local tech to get refurbished. Through my 6545 and Zbest ab it doesn't sound overly bright at all, except the bridge, but I could rewire a tone for that pickup by itself and roll it down a notch. I'm quite happy with this guitar, just want to change the pickups to a noiseless single coil. Any suggestions? I had a set of Bill Lawrence noiselss pups in my Legacy and they were pretty nice for noisless. The build quality is fantastic and he only charges $40.00 per pup.
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Apr 18, 2006 15:48:39 GMT -7
Post by tjstrat on Apr 18, 2006 15:48:39 GMT -7
I own a pair of G&L Comanches right now, and after owning MANY guitars, including PRS, Hamer, Reverend, Parker, Fenders and Gibsons and some oddball Peaveys, Linderts, and the like, the Comanche is the Dr Z of guitars... An instrument that at first seems a little counterintuitive but is capable of the most intense strat, tele, or P-90 tones imaginable, and with noiseless pickups to boot.
I can't even look at guitars other than Comanches now. None of them seem close. Anything I played till these felt like toys in comparison. Just like I felt when I plugged into my MAz 18 for the first time. The Mesas, the Riveras, the Sovteks Fenders and Buddas were all pretenders in comparison. I mean, they were very good... But not really playing in the same league. My opinion, of course. For my tastes the Comanche-Z combination is as good as it gets...
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Apr 18, 2006 16:28:29 GMT -7
Post by garyh on Apr 18, 2006 16:28:29 GMT -7
I'm quite happy with this guitar, just want to change the pickups to a noiseless single coil. Any suggestions? I second the Kinmans. Also, I just read somewhere that Dimarzio is making new noiseless single coils that blow their virtual vintages out of the water. Worth looking into.
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G&L?
Apr 18, 2006 20:03:01 GMT -7
Post by boomer on Apr 18, 2006 20:03:01 GMT -7
I have been playing a Asat Deluxe for about 5 years.(tele body with 2 splittable humbuckers) I use it in the studio all the time. Does just about anything except out of phase.
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Apr 18, 2006 21:01:59 GMT -7
Post by tele1962 on Apr 18, 2006 21:01:59 GMT -7
G&L 's are also a pleasure to work on when it comes to adjustments and such. I often wondered why these fine instruments depreciate the way the do? Why can't they hold their value?
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Apr 19, 2006 9:34:24 GMT -7
Post by Curt on Apr 19, 2006 9:34:24 GMT -7
Because the headstock doesn't say "Fender"///or "Gibson", sad really........
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Apr 19, 2006 10:06:47 GMT -7
Post by joekondziella on Apr 19, 2006 10:06:47 GMT -7
Maybe its a blessing in diguise. Grag em up before somebody notices. There's a sweet green Comanche @ a local store that I've really been gassing over.Plays real good.
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Apr 19, 2006 15:23:33 GMT -7
Post by Telemanic on Apr 19, 2006 15:23:33 GMT -7
Great guitar the Legacy! MIne was beautiful. I just hated the pick ups, thought they were kind of HI-FI sounding. And i hate floating trems, there is a previous thread where i described a simple mod i made to block the upward movement from the inside of the cavity, thus eliminating the annoying losing pitch on all the strings when bending one, and the potential for not being able to finish the last few bars of a tune cause your high e broke, and now the guitars completely unplayable. As far as fit and finish, wow! Not like a new Fender, where you have to go thru 10 or 15 to find a really good one!
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Apr 26, 2006 22:37:33 GMT -7
Post by tele1962 on Apr 26, 2006 22:37:33 GMT -7
Hahaha! I hear ya! But there's beauty in floating trems! It takes a knack setting them up, and you have to treat that trem like a lady, you can't reef on the thing like a Kahler. Same thing with a Bigsby...if you beat her, she'll just up and leave!
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Apr 30, 2006 8:14:33 GMT -7
Post by (8^D) on Apr 30, 2006 8:14:33 GMT -7
I have 2 ASAT Classics and an S-500. Absolutely L O V E them! They get the bulk of the studio/live workload. As mentioned, look for used. I've found mine all near mint in the $500-550 range on Harmony-Central. They're worth the intial investment, but should you change your mind and want to sell later you'll take quite a hit in "today's" resale market if purchased new. I say "today's" because BBE/G&L are looking at CNC systems for the American lines in addition to the Tribute series. As a result, resale of the current handmade instruments floating in the world will probably shoot thru the roof like PRS and other mfgs of the like that went down similar paths. The MFD pickups are great - something like a traditional single-coil tone with the output of a P90. One caveat to the design I've found is they're a bit microphonic in high SPL situations or if you use a lot of gain. For the guitars, $550 used is an AMAZING price for a completely handmade American instrument! I've found the fit/finish to be wonderful. They don't quite have the weight/feel of an Anderson/Suhr, but also aren't in that price range...even new. G&L's customer service is outstanding - I received my S500 used ('98 model) and the bridge pup was microphonic...basically needed a repot. Called G&L to see if they'd do it...after a couple brief trouble-shooting questions from the rep he offered to replace the pup with a new one if I'd simply mail them the one in question. 2 weeks later the new pup was back in the guitar and singing - no expense other than shipping and some down time....for a guitar purchased used. That's standing behind your products! Highly recommend G&L! But, like all things amp/guitar/pedal, it's best to try first - recommendations are great but personal experiences are much better.
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May 3, 2006 4:07:41 GMT -7
Post by tjstrat on May 3, 2006 4:07:41 GMT -7
Try the Comanche; a lot of people seem a little spooked by them (maybe the PTB tone controls, maybe the Z pickups..), but if you can find one for the right price you'll be amazed. I have two, on with a neck like a 2x4, the other with a much slimmer neck, and these are the best guitars I've ever played. I came around real late to single coils, and the noiseless Zs are pretty stunning. The Comanche really does sound like a 400 pound strat. Add a good compressor or dime your Ghia and prepare to be knocked out.
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May 3, 2006 5:50:16 GMT -7
Post by kruzty on May 3, 2006 5:50:16 GMT -7
What is the story with the "Z" pickups? I couldn't find any info on them on G&L's website. What is the benefit of that design? From your description, it sounds like they might be P90-ish sounding...
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May 3, 2006 7:28:24 GMT -7
Post by tjstrat on May 3, 2006 7:28:24 GMT -7
The pickups are staggered and reverse wound so they're virtually noiseless. They're also VERY powerful... And yeah, they definitely CAN do the P-90 thing with the right adjustment of the tone controls. They also quack like crazy in the 2 and 4 positions...
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May 3, 2006 10:54:07 GMT -7
Post by billyguitar on May 3, 2006 10:54:07 GMT -7
Same principal as the P-Bass pickup. I keep looking for a used Commanche at the big vintage guitar shows but I haven't found one yet with a neck that I want. Most of the used ones have prices of $750 to $900. What do you think of the Tribute series?
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May 4, 2006 3:52:09 GMT -7
Post by tjstrat on May 4, 2006 3:52:09 GMT -7
I've only fiddled with the Tributes a little; there's no Comanche in the line, but the ASATs and Legacys look like good bang. The fretwork's always iffy though; if you forget yourself you might snag on a fret end. Pickups and electronics are supposedly G&L made.
I found my first Comanche on eBay for $999.00 after selling my PRS... It has a beast of a neck, and took some adjusting to, but I love it now.
My black Comanche has a neat story... the local GC had the Maz 38 Studio Lead that I was ready to buy, and when the salesguy asked what I wanted to try it with I told him a G&L if he had one. I'd been looking at eBay for a few months and seeing the usual $1600.00 BINs for Comanches, so I nearly fell over when he brought a Comanche with a teeny, slim neck marked $750.00. Wound up walking out with the Z AND the guitar.
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May 4, 2006 18:13:43 GMT -7
Post by dlfcci on May 4, 2006 18:13:43 GMT -7
I don't think you'd be disappointed with a G&L. They are fine guitars. I have an ASAT and have owned a Legacy. Far better quality than Fender, IMHO. If you get a chance, try out an Ernie Ball Music Man Silhouette. Fantastic! Best neck I've put my hands around. 10" radius. Top quality guitar. I have one with HSH pickup config. The single coil sounds are both Tele and Strat. It's my #1 axe at the present time. As far as the G&L goes, I'm sure you'd be satisfied with one.
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