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Post by foxx on Oct 16, 2005 20:19:28 GMT -7
I never though that I would need them, but the rear strap just came loose from my 93 Strat. It hit the floor on it's butt and started to fall foward. I grabbed the other part of the strap hoping to stop it, and the damn strap came off of that peg as well. The guitar then fell onto my dog's bone, chipping the fret board. Luckily it's just a cosmetic "beauty mark", and maybe an increase in some bone mojo. Now I feel that I need strap locks. Any suggestions?
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Post by joekondziella on Oct 17, 2005 2:13:52 GMT -7
The thing about straplocks in my experience is that the end pins on the guitar wear out and eventually end up just having the same problem with it coming loose. What I did with '54 Historic LP is get some oversized washers, dressed em up with some black felt, unscrewed the end pin & put the washer under it holding the strap,tighten it up and check to make sure the screw stays tight from time to time thereafter. Can't take it off but it fits in my case o k and I feel fairly safe jumpin around all night. Hope this helps.
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Post by substitute on Oct 17, 2005 5:15:49 GMT -7
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Post by imyurhuckleberry on Oct 17, 2005 9:02:27 GMT -7
Schaller makes a nice set too.
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Post by ztones on Oct 23, 2005 15:56:04 GMT -7
Schaller makes the best strap locks available.
I have them on all my electric guitars and basses.
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Post by Lefty on Oct 23, 2005 18:15:55 GMT -7
Schaller, used them for years!! One trick to using them is when you screw in the new ends is to use a little Elmers white glue, it'll keep the ends from spinning and coming loose. And if you ever need to change them they aren't permanent. And if the holes are bigger than the screws I insert a wooden toothpick and break it off flush with the hole then proceed with the previous. Great stuff!!
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Post by hollywood5150 on Oct 23, 2005 19:47:11 GMT -7
Schaller is the way to go. It is amazing the number of used guitars I have seen have these on them. Lefty's toothpick and elmers glue is an awsome trick.
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Post by foxx on Oct 25, 2005 15:13:44 GMT -7
I went to my Dr Z dealer, Encore Music in Albuquerque, and all they had was Fender All Parts. I just got those because there was no need to even remove the strap end peices on the guitar (Strat). I just placed the locks on my strap a they work fine. Thanks for all the input. Maybe my next guitar will get schallers.
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Post by pickupcentral on Dec 3, 2005 9:25:34 GMT -7
I have found that the oversize strap buttons they out on the PRSes work great. You might have to enlarge the "slot" part of your strap, but the button is so big it is hard to imagine a strap coming off of it. If I ever get another Les Paul, that's what I'm going to install.
-Phil
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Post by arthur on Dec 30, 2005 7:27:43 GMT -7
I have the schallers on a few guitars. I generally like them. Two problems though: 1. The part on the strap is held together with a nut and washer. It can and does come loose. You need to keep tabs on it. I take a look and tighen every so often. 2. Though the lock is strong, it makes noise when playing seated (when the strap might be hanging a bit). Irks me a bit to hear my strap clanging in the socket.
I have the Dunlop (the old classic strap lock)--I think they're Dunlop---on some other guitars, including one for 18 years. These are the bulky push button ones. They have no chance of coming loose--the hardware would have to fail for that to happen. The don't rattle or make noise. I prefer these.
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Post by arthur on Dec 30, 2005 7:30:23 GMT -7
I might add...I recommend strap locks to everyone. I often see my students grab a strap and put a guitar on like a necklace. It's only a matter of time before one end comes loose. I also mention that if they don't have locks, to always keep their left hand on the neck and never to depend on the strap to hold the guitar.
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Post by dave on Dec 30, 2005 14:19:06 GMT -7
My PRS came with Schallers and I have since used them on all my guitars. They do rattle a bit but it doesnt bother me. You have still got to really carefull as others have pointed out. In addition to the pin coming unscrewed from time to time (I'll take Lefty's advice - glue it!) the strap attachment came loose on me not so long ago (I never did find the backing nut that rolled away somewhere) but disaster was averted as I held on to the neck - thank goodness. Moral of the story: keep on checking those fittings!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2005 15:34:52 GMT -7
I've used the Schallers but had one come undone and dropped the guitar. If you use Schallers you gotta' keep after the nut to keep it tight. Dunlops are what I use now. The push button ones don't inadvertently come undone.
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Post by tele1962 on Jan 1, 2006 10:55:48 GMT -7
A little common sense and awareness goes a long way too. Check every once in a while to see if the strap is over the button the right way...if the strap button is spinning and loose...do I jerk the strap as I put it on? Is there excessive pressure and weight put one direction? Not saying this applies to all, but so many guys I've seen are rammy with their instruments in little ways, and then look for a heavy duty solution to a self inflicted problem.
Strap locks are a good idea...a little grace and finesse is another good one!
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 1, 2006 13:10:54 GMT -7
I've only had strap locks on one guitar, I later took them off. I really like those large football shaped strap buttons that come on some guitars. Basically I only use straps that aren't worn out. Never dropped a guitar yet in 35 years of playing in bands.
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Post by tele1962 on Jan 1, 2006 16:27:43 GMT -7
Same with me Billy, and that included heavier guitars like big hollow bodies, and Les Pauls. 36 years and never an accident...no strap locks.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jan 30, 2006 13:19:42 GMT -7
I have these on my Warmoth Strat. They've worked well so far. $3.00 at Stew-Mac.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 30, 2006 14:12:41 GMT -7
I used to use the Schallers, and it appears the Dunlop is the same thing - they are both 360° groove-and-ball design. I dropped a brand new 335 on a concrete floor depending on that strap lock. Guess which strap lock is on my S##T list? Since that time, I've changed to the cup design. I see Fender offers a set on Musician's Friend at www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Accessories?sku=420534 but a number of others offer this same set. The cup cannot come off unless you let the whole assembly unscrew from the strap.
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Post by arthur on Jan 31, 2006 22:03:21 GMT -7
Steve, these Fenders are Schallers. As others mentioned, you must keep an eye on the nuts. Despite your accident, I rate these lower than Dunlop Strap Locks. I've used Dunlops for over twenty years, nothing even close to a failure. I have the Schallers on a few guitars. They're good, but because of the nut issue, I don't have 100% faith in them.
I'd be interested in hearing about how your Dunlop SL problem happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2006 0:23:53 GMT -7
Steve, these Fenders are Schallers. As others mentioned, you must keep an eye on the nuts. Despite your accident, I rate these lower than Dunlop Strap Locks. I've used Dunlops for over twenty years, nothing even close to a failure. I have the Schallers on a few guitars. They're good, but because of the nut issue, I don't have 100% faith in them. If you don't keep the nut tight...look out I'd be interested in hearing about how your Dunlop SL problem happened. Have to make sure everything is pushed together tight. Kinda' like the connections on a 1/2" air line. Won't come apart with 120lbs. of pressure unless the connectors malfunction.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 1, 2006 9:53:12 GMT -7
I'd be interested in hearing about how your Dunlop SL problem happened. When you push the button to relax the tension on the balls, and push the plug into the socket, you can get a condition where the balls have not quite seated in the ring, yet the unit will still hold up the guitar - until it pulls out. I had it happen several times actually, but they came off all of my straps after I dropped my 335. I've never had the cup design come loose, ever. The nut won't come loose if you put a bit of fingernail polish or thread locking compound on it.
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Post by jzguitar on Feb 1, 2006 14:27:03 GMT -7
The guitar then fell onto my dog's bone Wow - how's your dog? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2006 22:50:04 GMT -7
Must be fine if his bone could chip a guitar!
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Post by foxx on Feb 7, 2006 19:21:22 GMT -7
It was the bone my dog was chewing, well not at that moment. She left it on the floor just where I dropped the guitar. My Fender strap locks are also Shallers.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 7, 2006 19:35:02 GMT -7
I stand corrected. The locks I like are Schallers - weird, I distinctly remember they were the other style, but at 52, I'm really not sure if I zipped my fly the last time I peed, so it could be that I'm mistaken... Here's one link to the Schallers: www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_parts/Electric_guitar:_Strap_buttons/Schaller_Strap_Security_Locks.html And here are the Dunlops: www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_parts/Electric_guitar:_Strap_buttons/Dunlop_Straplok_System.html For my money, the Schallers are significanly more secure because as long as you make sure the nut is tight on the strap, they cannot let your guitar fall. In my view, that is not so with the Dunlops. YMMV Update: why in the world would StewMac put a comma in a URL? It sure fouls up the link. So here are the same two links from tinyurl: Schaller: tinyurl.com/ca8dsDunlop: tinyurl.com/c6kyw
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