dc01
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Post by dc01 on May 16, 2010 9:04:50 GMT -7
Firstly like to say hello to everyone as im new to this forum. As the title suggests. Has anyone tried, or use a Brake lite in a Fender Superchamp XD. I need to tame it down a bit for when the kids are in bed and the Brake lite seems to tick all the boxes for what i need. Just wondered if there are any opinions to using it with this amp. Many thanks to all.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on May 16, 2010 14:06:38 GMT -7
Should work fine.
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Post by JumpMarine on May 20, 2010 20:32:30 GMT -7
Yep, the SCXD is only 15 watts and the BL is rated up to 45watts.
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Post by dc01 on Jun 23, 2010 11:09:10 GMT -7
Any idea on how it would affect the tone? So i ve heard, most of the tone on this amp is produced at the pre amp stage and to attenuate it would ruin the natural tone of the amp. I migh have been fed a load of s**t. But i havent got a lot of expierence with this. Cheers all.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 23, 2010 11:22:05 GMT -7
Too subjective to estimate. Personally I don't think they color the sound at all. Some folks think they color the sound too much. It all depends on a whole giant list of variables, none of which can really be controlled all that well (if at all). Bottom line is you try it, you either like it or not. Most folks like it. A few do not.
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Post by pmpgator on Jul 14, 2010 12:30:12 GMT -7
Hey Dc01, I have a SCXD that I use for practice and for some recording. Although your question is one of a technical nature (i.e., will it work with that amp) I would provide some feedback that the SCXD uses modeling to achieve the overall sound of the amps it emulates (including the gain and output distortion stages) so if you want the overdriven sound at a low volume just turn down the volume knob. I've attempted to play in a group setting with that amp, and even turned all the way up the amp doesn't really break up differently than when it is turned down to studio levels. The speaker gets some break up at higher volumes but the attenuator will not allow that to happen. There is some confusion about channel 1 on that amp that I've read about, but that channel also uses modeling to get the clean blackface tone so even there turning it up doesn't appreciably affect the amount of breakup. All that said, that little amp has some really good sounds and is remarkable for the quality and variety you can get for such a small price. If it was louder it would be a good amp for live performances with a band but I just can't get the volume necessary with another player and a drummer which is too bad. But, that what Dr. Z amps are for!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 14, 2010 12:39:23 GMT -7
Hold on... is that amp a solid state power amp? If so I wouldn't recommend any attenuator.
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Post by pmpgator on Jul 14, 2010 17:58:21 GMT -7
It has a solid state front end (but it does have a 12AX7 that does phase inversion and some other duty), but it has 2 6v6 tubes in the power section. I guess you'd call it an hybrid. I just tried to get the output tubes to overdrive and even all the way up there isn't much breakup. So, at lower volumes there is little change in the modeled sound. Probably no need to put an attenuator in the mix.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 14, 2010 19:26:31 GMT -7
It has a solid state front end (but it does have a 12AX7 that does phase inversion and some other duty), but it has 2 6v6 tubes in the power section. I guess you'd call it an hybrid. I just tried to get the output tubes to overdrive and even all the way up there isn't much breakup. So, at lower volumes there is little change in the modeled sound. Probably no need to put an attenuator in the mix. Hm. It sounds like they designed the power amp to be clean no matter what. Prolly wouldn't get much benefit from an attenuator then...
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Post by dc01 on Jul 20, 2010 2:06:31 GMT -7
Is the concensus then that the brake lite will work with better effect on a valve amp. Only ask because i have the chance to pick up a Laney vc15 for next to nothing. Never bothered with the brake lite in my superchamp in the end. Love the tone of the laney. Much better than my fender. Would the brake lite be a better option in a all valve amp?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 20, 2010 6:00:54 GMT -7
Is the concensus then that the brake lite will work with better effect on a valve amp. Only ask because i have the chance to pick up a Laney vc15 for next to nothing. Never bothered with the brake lite in my superchamp in the end. Love the tone of the laney. Much better than my fender. Would the brake lite be a better option in a all valve amp? The entire point of an attenuator is to turn the amp up while turning the volume down. You wouldn't do that with a solid state amp - there would be no point. Turning up a tube amp makes it sound wonderful. Turning up a solid state amp doesn't really change how it sounds. So the answer to your question is yes, you use an attenuator on a tube amp.
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