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Post by prettynoiselab on Mar 5, 2007 22:56:37 GMT -7
After reading all the posts in the SRZ-65 forum I am having a panic attack by not being able to buy one at the present time. I am in the process of a career change and the funds have been depleted. Oh mighty exalted Dr. Z please say you will in the future do another run of these amps. I will definitely buy one.
Also in the near future if any of you get tired of your 65 just send me a message. I will definitely give it a home.
Cheers, Doug O
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 5, 2007 23:08:13 GMT -7
They'll pop up from time to time. Once you get your fundage organized, you just need to watch a while and you'll see one come by on the for sale forum, or over on evilBay. And of course, there are STILL a few new ones out there: emeraldcityguitars.com/drz_srz65.htm
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Post by prettynoiselab on Mar 7, 2007 10:42:57 GMT -7
Thanks, I will definitely be checking into the stores this summer and hopefully I can still find one. Doug
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Post by woody on Apr 6, 2007 8:34:01 GMT -7
Have all SRZ 65's been sold?
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Post by sonicgator on Apr 7, 2007 5:28:48 GMT -7
Have all SRZ 65's been sold? As of a couple of weeks ago, Midtown Music in Atlanta still had one.
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Post by woody on Apr 14, 2007 18:44:34 GMT -7
Make n Music in Chicago has one left
Rays Guitars also but not anymore!
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Post by dock66 on Apr 14, 2007 21:42:51 GMT -7
All might be sold by now.
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Post by woody on Apr 15, 2007 5:57:09 GMT -7
Make N Music still has one. They don't have it listed on their website but if you email them you'll find they have one in stock. As of Friday the 13th anyway....
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Post by willfulmurder on Jul 23, 2007 11:13:58 GMT -7
Hey Benttop,
Did you buy that SRZ-65 from Emerald City? It looks vaguely familiar.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 23, 2007 13:53:06 GMT -7
Hey Benttop, Did you buy that SRZ-65 from Emerald City? It looks vaguely familiar. Actually no. Originally ECG wasn't getting one, and I ordered mine in from Wilcutts. While mine was in transit, I found out ECG had one. So I could have, but didn't get mine from Jay.
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Post by willfulmurder on Jul 23, 2007 15:20:51 GMT -7
Cool. Thanks.
I wonder if he still has his.
-WM.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 23, 2007 16:20:46 GMT -7
Cool. Thanks. I wonder if he still has his. -WM. When I played the Galaxie there, I didn't see an SRZ. I'm curious who got it.
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Post by fisholot on Jul 23, 2007 17:35:56 GMT -7
It was sold the same day it arrived there.. Cool. Thanks. I wonder if he still has his. -WM.
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Post by nitehawk55 on Jul 23, 2007 19:02:23 GMT -7
If there is so much demand for this amp why does it have to be a special edition ? Why is it not a regular prodution model ??
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Post by woody on Jul 23, 2007 19:21:09 GMT -7
Seems to have lots of demand...I honestly think the 6545 should be back in production. Lots of El84 based amps to choose from...correct me if i am wrong but right now no El34 amps are in production.... 8-(
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Post by groovergeorge on Jul 23, 2007 19:49:37 GMT -7
Seems to have lots of demand...I honestly think the 6545 should be back in production. Lots of El84 based amps to choose from...correct me if i am wrong but right now no El34 amps are in production.... 8-( I'll second that
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Post by Curt on Jul 24, 2007 5:49:28 GMT -7
Never know what 2008 may hold.........................................
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Post by billy on Jul 24, 2007 7:07:26 GMT -7
wouldn't a second run of SRZ limited edition amps defeat the purpose of them being unique and a "limited edition"?
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Post by willfulmurder on Jul 24, 2007 9:33:24 GMT -7
I think the EL34 amps were produced by the Dr. Z engineer who passed away last year. When talking with Jay from Emerald City, I believe it was he that told me this was the reason the KT45 is no longer in production. I would so love to have another run of the SRZ-65 RH big box. The one that rythymmeister brought to Z NW was sharp. (Note to RM: let me know if you are looking to sell/trade it).
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Post by myles on Jul 24, 2007 9:42:19 GMT -7
I don't know if there will be another run but what I do know is that there is a lot of interest.
Carl Verheyen uses the SRZ-65 as the heart of his four amp rig and has a rig in the USA and in Europe so he has two of them. He is currently back on tour in Europe for a few weeks and just left. I know that after his six or so week tour that ended about a month ago I had a lot of inquiries about his SRZ-65.
In the states at the last show I worked at for Carl I talked to at least 5 players who wanted more data on the amp.
A fellow named Jeff has four of them (he snatches up anything on ebay and anything that comes to TrueTone Music in Santa Monica). I blueprinted his four SRZ-65's and his 6545 a week or so ago and another SRZ-65 that belongs to Doug who is also a big Z user and studio guy here in L.A. The two of them are friends so when I work for one of them I usually work for the other at the same time. I have a friend with a Komet 60 that he either has on ebay or had on ebay that went up for sale after we did the same sort of A/B test with the SRZ and Komet that I did with Carl on the SRZ and his plexi Marshall before Carl made the switch.
In any case, the amps are in demand and out there on the road big time.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 24, 2007 9:42:22 GMT -7
That amp had some serious mojo!
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Post by willfulmurder on Jul 24, 2007 11:00:06 GMT -7
Myles,
Can you tell any difference between the 65 channel of the 6545 and the SRZ-65 alone? Same with the 45 side vs. a KT-45?
-WM.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 24, 2007 13:38:39 GMT -7
Myles, Can you tell any difference between the 65 channel of the 6545 and the SRZ-65 alone? Same with the 45 side vs. a KT-45? -WM. I could tell a difference but I think it had more to do with how the power amp was set up than the preamps. The 6545 seemed to have more girth in the bottom end compared to my SRZ-65. But of course that's a sample of one (in both cases) so it's hard to say really. But my 6545 (the one Drew has now) had a lot bigger bottom end than my SRZ-65 has. Maybe it's tubes, maybe it's bias, maybe it's design.
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Post by sonicgator on Jul 24, 2007 17:34:24 GMT -7
Myles, I can see why there is so much demand and why you answer so many questions about the SRZ-65. It really is a great amp that consistently delivers good tone. The amp's responsiveness to picking nuances and volume changes on the guitar continue to surprise me. I have been using different overdrive/distortion pedals over the last few months and have found the amp to be even better with my guitar straight into it...I use the volume on my guitar to clean up the sound and just adjust as needed.
I will say though, the RS Guitarworks Volume control makes a huge difference as I am able to go to about 2 or 3 on the volume and still maintain a normal tone from the guitar, which in turn makes the amp purr.
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Post by myles on Jul 25, 2007 15:45:47 GMT -7
The Doc and I actually talked about this subject earlier today.
His only concern is that he does not want to upset folks that may have bought the LEs (limited edition) amps. If he did another run of non-LE amps with standard colors, face plates, and non LE serial numbers I don't think there would be any issue personally. After all, now that more of these are out in the real world on stages and people are just getting the message about what these amps can do there is now a lot of interest. The more out there the more folks will want them so the value will rise as demand will rise.
If folks here that own one of the LE amps have their own thought on this maybe post their thoughts here.
By the way sonicgator .... RS Guitarworks built a number of kits that I have in some Strats, Teles, and Les Pauls that I am very happy with. I think the pot itself is not a factor unless it is a different taper or impedance but in their guitar kits it's the caps they supply that are a big improvement over most stock tone caps.
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Post by zimmer on Jul 25, 2007 18:19:24 GMT -7
It would have been a hell of a trick for me to source an original/used SRZ-65. So for me it was a blessing that a limited run was made at all. If the limited run now has folks clamoring for more of the amps, then that's good for the Doc's business. Are the 6545's still being made? They don't seem to show up all that often, either. Myles, your black face-plate model, with white chicken head knobs, that's pretty cool. I'm pleased to be one of the LE owners, and it seemed like a sweet idea to have the "last" of the line. A few years ago, BMW did that with a last run of R100RS bikes, then four years later brought the model back for a bit. Pissed some off, made others happy. It's only business. If Doc wants to do it, and there's demand beyond one fellow buying four of them or more, then put them out there. Or throw in a Mullard rectifier and call it an SRZ-72. Or do a Carl Verheyen Signature Edition with KT77s and charge $3k. Just kidding.
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Post by sonicgator on Jul 25, 2007 18:29:56 GMT -7
Personally, I would have no issue with Doc re-releasing the SRZ-65. Why shouldn't others be able to enjoy the amp as much as I do? I would say as you suggested Myles and return it to the normal "cosmetics" so that the LE is still a 35 run only edition of the amp.
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Post by woody on Jul 25, 2007 20:26:16 GMT -7
If I had to choose I would rather have the 6545 amp back into production. I think it is more versatile.
I'm on the fence on the SRZ 65 being put back into production.. I bought my LE rather hastily because they were on a limited run not only because it is a great amp and a true Dr Z classic but also as an investment. I'm still paying off this amp and I wouldn't have jump the gun if I knew it was going to go back into production. I realize the demand is there and that is good for the Doc ...I just feel like this amp is unique and has been retired to the 6545 to take its place and I can say I earned a unique piece of Z history.
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Post by myles on Jul 26, 2007 10:22:09 GMT -7
It would have been a hell of a trick for me to source an original/used SRZ-65. So for me it was a blessing that a limited run was made at all. If the limited run now has folks clamoring for more of the amps, then that's good for the Doc's business. Are the 6545's still being made? They don't seem to show up all that often, either. Myles, your black face-plate model, with white chicken head knobs, that's pretty cool. I'm pleased to be one of the LE owners, and it seemed like a sweet idea to have the "last" of the line. A few years ago, BMW did that with a last run of R100RS bikes, then four years later brought the model back for a bit. Pissed some off, made others happy. It's only business. If Doc wants to do it, and there's demand beyond one fellow buying four of them or more, then put them out there. Or throw in a Mullard rectifier and call it an SRZ-72. Or do a Carl Verheyen Signature Edition with KT77s and charge $3k. Just kidding. Zimmer ... a few things. Only one of Carl's two SRZ's has the KT77s. The other has the E34LS in a #7 rating. They both use 12AX7R2 (Sovtek 12AX7LPS) matched phase inverters and also use the R2 in V1. On the R100RS .... I had one of those in the 80s and it was the bike I rode every weekend from Malibu to Santa Cruz when I was building my Moore 24 sailboat. My own SRZ-65 is dead stock other than tube selection. The panel and knobs are something the Doc did that was not at my request, just something he thought would look nice and I like it a lot. My SRZ gets a LOT of use. It is borrowed a lot. It may now be my most borrowed amp. Folks can borrow it three times max and then they have to find their own I tend to play my Carmen Ghia more than any other amp but when I fall back into my sixties roots where stage volume was the name of the game so you not only heard things but felt them then I tend to use a two amp rig .... the SRZ-65 for the Marshall stuff and a Fender BF Twin Reverb for the clean side. If I want to do live stuff loudly in a single package I grab a two channel amp (I do not have a 6545 or I would go that route) that is a very loud sucker. I think of it as a big, heavy but fast car like a Bentley Turbo R. It is a Fender Tone-master and is about as loud as a jet engine In any case, the SRZ-65 is the core of the the tone of rock music that I grew up with in the sixties and into the seventies. I have a lot of Marshall stuff and the SRZ-65 is the best "Marshall" I own
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Post by myles on Jul 26, 2007 10:36:20 GMT -7
If I had to choose I would rather have the 6545 amp back into production. I think it is more versatile. I'm on the fence on the SRZ 65 being put back into production.. I bought my LE rather hastily because they were on a limited run not only because it is a great amp and a true Dr Z classic but also as an investment. I'm still paying off this amp and I wouldn't have jump the gun if I knew it was going to go back into production. I realize the demand is there and that is good for the Doc ...I just feel like this amp is unique and has been retired to the 6545 to take its place and I can say I earned a unique piece of Z history. The 6545 is a killer amp. I recently did a bit of work on two of them at the same time as working on about 5 SRZ-65s so was able to compare them all with three players on hand not counting myself (the most lackluster of the guitar talent at the time) Some folks say the SRZ is a touch more gainy than the 6545. If you pay attention to V1 in the 6545 and pick one that has proper gain (and 90% of all current production 12AX7 types are down at least 20-30% on actual gain) then it is quite easy to have the 6545 be just as agressive and gainy as the SRZ-65. There is a bit of difference in the two amps comparing the 65 side as the SRZ has a presence circuit (that has some cool magic that is worth having) and the master volume may be a bit different too but I would check with the Doc on that aspect. I think both of the amps are great and each has some great aspects.
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