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Post by jbgtr on Feb 14, 2010 11:15:19 GMT -7
Ok, forgive me if this has already been addressed.
So, the 1x10 combo comes with a red fang.
the 1x12 comes with a G12H
Does the 2x10 come with Fangs or Z-10's? If the Z-10's are stock, how much does it cost to upgrade to a double-fang set-up?
Can I get a 12 inch red fang as an upgrade to the 1x12 combo, or do I need to buy the speaker myself?
Can we now purchase a Z-Best with two 12 inch Red fangs? If so, how much $$$$
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Post by humbucker427 on Feb 15, 2010 6:59:54 GMT -7
At this point, and to my knowledge, Dr. Z will not be stocking the 12" Red Fang.
Also, the 1x10 cabs are going to come with the 8 ohm Eminence Red Coat Ramrod, upgradable to the Red Fang.
As for the 2x10 combos, they'll have the standard 16 ohm Z-10's. You could probably upgrade both speakers to the Red Fangs ($139 upgrade each for a total of $278) , but since they are 8 ohms each (for use in the combo) you'd then be at 4 ohms, so no additional cabs could be added.
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Post by pcns on Feb 17, 2010 14:03:39 GMT -7
At this point, and to my knowledge, Dr. Z will not be stocking the 12" Red Fang. Also, the 1x10 cabs are going to come with the 8 ohm Eminence Red Coat Ramrod, upgradable to the Red Fang. As for the 2x10 combos, they'll have the standard 16 ohm Z-10's. You could probably upgrade both speakers to the Red Fangs ($139 upgrade each for a total of $278) , but since they are 8 ohms each (for use in the combo) you'd then be at 4 ohms, so no additional cabs could be added. don't want to confuse the issue here but you could go with the 4ohm set up and use a series wired Y cable to add an extension cab Todd
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Post by humbucker427 on Feb 17, 2010 17:47:35 GMT -7
True, but then you'd narrow your selection of extension cabs to the required 4 ohms, which if using Dr. Z, they (or you) would have to custom load. Of course, you'd then have to use the 8 ohm output from the amp. Everyone follow? Haha!
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Post by stratovarius on Feb 17, 2010 17:59:09 GMT -7
You could always wire them in series for 16 ohms.
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Post by pcns on Feb 17, 2010 18:55:27 GMT -7
True, but then you'd narrow your selection of extension cabs to the required 4 ohms, which if using Dr. Z, they (or you) would have to custom load. Of course, you'd then have to use the 8 ohm output from the amp. Everyone follow? Haha! Could make it real messy fast wouldn't it! Just to be clear in my previous post for those following along. The Y cable would need to be wired series. Normally they are wired parallel. The series would double the impedance of 2 4ohm speaker sources to make it an 8 ohm load. A parallel wired Y would half the impedance pushing the amp down near 2ohms which will NOT work. If this isn't clear drop me a PM and I can provide more information on this that you probably want to know. thanks, Todd
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Post by humbucker427 on Feb 18, 2010 6:11:07 GMT -7
You could always wire them in series for 16 ohms. Well, the Monza only has 4 and 8 ohm jacks. However, if you knew you were *always* going to run a 16 ohm extension cab it would work.
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Post by stratovarius on Feb 18, 2010 7:19:59 GMT -7
You could always wire them in series for 16 ohms. Well, the Monza only has 4 and 8 ohm jacks. However, if you knew you were *always* going to run a 16 ohm extension cab it would work. Oops, I forgot about that. I've been thinking about trying a pair of 10" Red Fangs with my Mazerati GT, so my mind was somewhere else!
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Post by jbgtr on Feb 18, 2010 14:03:11 GMT -7
I was just reading the guitar digest review of the Monza......the author says he clocked the 1x10 combo at 122.1 db at 6 feet away....at max volume. that is quite impressive.
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Post by jbgtr on Feb 18, 2010 14:05:47 GMT -7
Not sure if it is the same for the Monza, but I have read other posts where the doc says you can plug a 16 ohm load into the 8 ohm tap on the ghia. I believe the same is true for his other amps that don't have a 16 ohm tap.
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Post by hitoverdrive on Feb 19, 2010 14:22:58 GMT -7
Not sure if it is the same for the Monza, but I have read other posts where the doc says you can plug a 16 ohm load into the 8 ohm tap on the ghia. I believe the same is true for his other amps that don't have a 16 ohm tap. Yeah Dr Z told me the same thing for the Monza's 8ohm tap. I have a 412 that is 16ohm and I was bummed I couldn't use it. He assured me I could.
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 19, 2010 19:21:29 GMT -7
From my personal experience, I understand it to be safe to run an 8ohm output of an amp to a 16ohm input of a speaker cabinet. What is not safe-
8ohm amp output into a 4ohm input of a cabinet.
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Post by DRZ on Feb 20, 2010 2:41:04 GMT -7
From my personal experience, I understand it to be safe to run an 8ohm output of an amp to a 16ohm input of a speaker cabinet. What is not safe- 8ohm amp output into a 4ohm input of a cabinet. I have said it before and I'll say it again. It is always safe to run your amp into a higher ohm load (i.e. 8 ohm out of amp into a 16 ohm speaker load). Now I'm not saying it will yield the best tonal results, best results tonally come from MATCHING amp and load. But some say they like a slight mis-match, less power out a slight freq. shift, hey it's only Rock-N-Roll...... Z
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 21, 2010 7:11:05 GMT -7
Thanks for the confirmation Doc.
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Post by tdarian on Feb 21, 2010 17:29:31 GMT -7
Curious if anyone at this relatively early stage of Monza mania has tried using a 1-12 Celestion Gold with a Monza? I ask because I have a MAZ 18 NR head on the way in about 3 weeks, and will be buying a cab because (Yikes!) I'll be shipping out my MAZ 18 Combo (G12H30) in a day or so to a guy who bought it.
Looking for the perfect speaker for the MAZ, and the Gold is getting raves, while being able to still use the cab with my MiniZ head and perhaps a Monza head down the line.
Suggestions/feedback appreciated, although I may also get the 1-10 RedFang with Brakelite combo...it's scarcely bigger than a head anyway.
Thanks guys!
tom
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Post by bluzman on Feb 21, 2010 21:28:56 GMT -7
I plugged Monza into a few different cabs and it sounds great with all of them. I have to say though that the 10" Red Fang has a cool punch. I did like how it sounds with the Gold and 2 x 12 Blues. The Red Fang is a loud 10"!
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