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Post by wingwalker on Apr 5, 2006 7:09:25 GMT -7
Ok, I've been doing my reading on the 6545 and the SRZ and I have 2 questions...
-Was the SRZ65 available with reverb?
-Is the 65 side if the 6545 the same as the SRZ65 or is it just similar?
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Post by prowler on Apr 5, 2006 7:50:43 GMT -7
I don't think the SRZ was ever available with reverb but I may be wrong. You may want to shoot Z an email regarding that. I can however compare the 65 side of the 6545 to the SRZ. The 65 side of the 6545 is very similar to the SRZ. However, in my opinion, the SRZ has a bit more gain on tap & sounds a bit more raw to my ears. That being said the only way you would REALLY be able to tell the difference would be to have them both in an A/B comparison.
Rumor has it that Z may bring the SRZ back into production. As of yet no solid word directly from Z regarding that.
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Post by SG123 on Apr 5, 2006 9:43:19 GMT -7
I own a 1995 SRZ-65RH head. I'm assuming RH stands for Reverb Head. The reverb tank on mine was hard-mounted to the top interior wood of the cabinet with no vibration isolation and no tolex/vinyl bag. I know it was stock, having purchased it from a friend who was the original owner. The tank is now loose inside a double thickness tolex bag which is suspended by screws holding the ends of the bag. Much better resistance to vibration.
I also have pictures of a 1993 SRZ-65RH chassis in a single 12" [ might be 15" ] combo cabinet that I saw on eBay. I can't be sure if that one is stock or not. First off, the "RH" might indicate it was originally a head. Second the cabinet is a bit odd - it is completely covered in black tolex, baffle and all. The speaker has one of those aftermarket waffle grilles held on with the 4 brackets. But then in the back, it's got a cooling fan inside, just like Z puts in a lot of the cabinets. [ My head has a fan in the end of the box ]. Z was building them in his basement during this period - to order - so it could have been original. Only one person knows and he might not remember.
I also have photos of a wood front head with what appears to be a SRZ-65R chassis [ note: no "H" ] also off eBay.
Short answer - yes, at one time there were SRZ-65 models with reverb.
With Kurt's tragic passing, re-issuing the SRZ-65 is probably WAY on the back burner..
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Post by SG123 on Apr 5, 2006 10:17:45 GMT -7
Just went back and looked at the photos of the black tolex covered combo I mentioned above. It couldn't have been a head converted later to a combo - when mounted to the top of a combo cabinet, a chassis intended for a head would have all the faceplate markings upside-down !
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Post by prowler on Apr 5, 2006 10:38:17 GMT -7
sg123...
Thanks for clearing that up! My SRZ is a 2002 model & does not have any RH designation in the serial#. I would love to see the photos of the SRZ's that you mentioned. Can you send me the pics?
kaseri(at)gmail(dot)com
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Post by SG123 on Apr 5, 2006 12:40:15 GMT -7
Not a problem. Check your eMail.
I started cruising eBay for ANY infomation on the SRZ-65 model over a year ago - first to try and determine a fair price to pay my friend when I bought his. You just don't see them for sale that often!
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Post by prowler on Apr 5, 2006 12:52:16 GMT -7
Got them, thanks.
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Post by maction on Apr 6, 2006 11:38:12 GMT -7
SG123,
How does the reverb sound on your SRZ-65RH? How high do you usually run it?
The tone of these amps seem so British to me (Marshall/HiWatt) that I have a hard time imagining reverb as part of the tone.
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Post by SG123 on Apr 6, 2006 12:33:31 GMT -7
The reverb on mine is quite subtle compared to say a Fender combo reverb. All the way up is like a Fender on maybe "4". I don't know if this is typical of Z amps or not. A Maz 18 w/Reverb I had in for service a while back seemed to have a bit more. Mine definitely doesn't do surf music - nor would I want it to. That's what my Fenders are for.
Mine might be running a 12AU7 for the reverb driver instead of the more common 12AT7 - that could explain the not so strong reverb. The reason I say "might", is that mine is a special with six 9-pin "preamp" tubes. It has four 12AX7 and two 12AU7 - Z thinks that one 12AU7 is for the buffered effects loop. I ought to get off my backside and determine what does what by "process of elimination" or actually tracing out the circuit [ I did have it open once to check component values on the "Volume I / Volume II inputs - mine doesn't have a Gain/Master Volume ]. I've been taking the "if it ain't broke" approach.
I rarely use the Reverb - and just a slight amount when I do, so there's enough there for my tastes.
To your point, a bandmate's Marshall has reverb and I always wondered why..
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Post by maction on Apr 6, 2006 14:48:18 GMT -7
Thanks for the info, SG123!
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Post by chilicat on Apr 18, 2006 19:40:01 GMT -7
I have a SRZRC, an early on I think. Serial #2002. It is a combo with 2 Greenbacks and reverb. I agree, the reverb is more subtle than my fender's but is pretty good, although I think the fender's sounds fuller to my ear. It's a great sounding amp with tons of head room and takes pedels like a champ. IT may be on the selling block soon as I'm interested in the Manaray and can only afford one or the other (3 kids and one on the way). I'm sure if I do sell her (the amp) it will be one of those peices that I'll "pine" for in the not so distant future ie: Gold Top reissue,335,SG, 71 Strat etc.,etc.! Now I'm really depressed! What to do!??
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Post by prowler on Apr 18, 2006 19:58:38 GMT -7
In my opinion you should keep the SRZ because it's no longer made. With the tragic passing of Kurt, any plans to reissue the SRZ are WAY, WAY on the back burner IF even a consideration at all. The Stang Ray is a production amp and should be available for a long time to come. I say keep the SRZ & save up for a Stang Ray.
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Post by SG123 on Apr 19, 2006 8:16:19 GMT -7
Sounds like you don't need any more "seller's remorse" in your life. :-)
My vote is keep the SRZ. The exception would be if your amp provides you with a portion of your income - as a professional musician - and you need to switch amps in order to adapt to changing musical circumstances. Finances might dictate that you make the swap.
If it's just a whim, thinking you might like the Manta/StangRay better - I say dance with who brung ya..
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Post by maction on Apr 20, 2006 10:25:07 GMT -7
I agree with SG123 and Prowler.
with the the great reception the 'Ray is getting, you can bet that it'll be in production for a long time. the SRZ, especially one with reverb, would be nearly impossible to replace.
and welcome to the forum!
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Post by chilicat on Apr 20, 2006 19:09:24 GMT -7
Thanks for the feedback. I love the amp, the other guys in the band love it also. It reminds me of that Bud Lite commercial were the guy is on a date and the challenge is not to look at the four hot chicks at the next table! The guy I bought it from just got a new Sting Ray and loves it but would buy back the SRZ if he could afford both. Oh well I off to buy lottery tickets!
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