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Post by Bill on Aug 23, 2006 19:36:08 GMT -7
I am very VERY pleased with this amp! A polar opposite of the Stingray, but in a good way. This was with the Tears & Whiskey band, me on the 66/ Z 1x12 Weber blue dog... rockstok on the other side with an RxES/ Z 1x12 Vintage 30. I used only the RC Booster, and just kicked it in for solos...worked the guitar volume a lot. All knobs at 3:00 and it wasn't too loud using a single 12". I was worried that it might have TOO much grind for honky tonk music, but it sounded great...especially well balanced against the RxES. Just the right amount of drive to add some nice texture to songs we don't want to be....too purty, if you get my drift! Basically this amp reminded me of the night (a good memory) I took my Ghia, over a year ago...and loved it, but it didn't have enough for this band. The 66/ RC responded and sounded very similar to the Ghia, but with sufficient headroom and balls for a fairly loud band. Yes, I'm definitely in the honeymoon stage! ;D
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Post by Curt on Aug 23, 2006 19:53:01 GMT -7
Bill, I'm glad someone else makes the Ghia/66 connection !!! Doesn't add up with the different power tubes..but the ears and hands don't lie. I really dig the 66 for honky tonk, red dirt, blues and classic rock. Ya ain't played Merle 'til ya dun it through a Route 66 Right on.
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Post by taswegian on Aug 23, 2006 21:54:21 GMT -7
Hey Bill, you could throw in a little Zep too at those settings. ;D Glad your digging the beast. I've just started rehearsing in a 70's rock band doing Purple, Zep, Kansas, Queen, Floyd, etc and the 66 is practically grinning! I think it's enjoying rehearsals more than me. ;D
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Post by Bill on Aug 24, 2006 4:15:52 GMT -7
You both speak the truth! Here's a little eye candy from last night...two RxES's on the left, Rt 66 on the right. Out of view were lots of Telecasters' around the room...along with a lot of smiles.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Aug 24, 2006 4:33:12 GMT -7
Bill, How did those RxES's do volume-wise in that setting? I'm curious what settings were on the RxES to blend in with the 66.
thanks,
PDW
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Post by Bill on Aug 24, 2006 5:56:29 GMT -7
Bill, How did those RxES's do volume-wise in that setting? I'm curious what settings were on the RxES to blend in with the 66. thanks, PDW I'm pretty sure rockstok (bill r) had the overdose on all night (blue jewel light on), and volume up around 1 or 2 o'clock....maybe he'll chime in and confirm....in any regard, the two amps worked incredibly well together, both in terms of output and blend. Also the combination of speakers created some interesting results...the Vintage 30 was closed back, the Weber alnico blue dog was open backed. We traded off cabinets halfway through....in the end, I liked each cabinet equally, one with more kick, one with an overall "sweeter" tone.
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2006 6:45:29 GMT -7
You both speak the truth! Here's a little eye candy from last night...two RxES's on the left, Rt 66 on the right. Out of view were lots of Telecasters' around the room...along with a lot of smiles. Im seeing quite a contrast between your pedalboard(well, I mean pedal) and the other guys pedalboard...or is that 2 pedalboards I'm seeing? It must be nice to play in a "2 Z" environment...the other guy in our band who occassionally straps on an electric is playing thru a Rocktron amp Talk about an icepick!
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Post by Bill on Aug 24, 2006 7:30:56 GMT -7
rc, I'm not surprised you picked up on that, you have a good eye for detail! The 66 really doesn't need more that a good boost pedal IMO....definitely no need for an OD or compressor. I use a few more with the 'Ray, or most any other amp though.
There ARE two pedal boards on the left side, but only one is being used. Each board is assigned to a different RxES. rockstok is a true pleasure to play with...a seasoned veteran do-it-all performer, and our styles work very well together...at least when he is available!
Btw, good luck with your 66 quest. ;D
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 24, 2006 8:38:16 GMT -7
The 66 really doesn't need more that a good boost pedal IMO....definitely no need for an OD or compressor. How true...although playing thru BW's 66 the other night, I found that I needed a tubescreamer to get that modern "singing sustain" kinda sound...but I dont need that very often.
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Post by Curt on Aug 24, 2006 8:42:49 GMT -7
I recognize that green cab ;^)
Ya had me cornfused with the head swappin' in that pic!!
He has 2 RXES's?? Sweet.
Yes Sir if'n we can get RC a 66 we'll have had "Break out" success with the 66, crossed musical boundries.
I feel 20 years from now the Route 66 will be a highly coveted "Vintage" amp.
Cool pic Bill, Thanks for postin' it.
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Post by rockstok on Aug 24, 2006 9:11:43 GMT -7
It was a sweet night of music and Z fun for sure. FYI, I had my volume on 10:30 and moved it up to about 11 after we switched cabs. Never had it past 12 so far but next time out...
The Weber is much easier on the ears and I'm sure will be better accepted live due to it's slightly more tame delivery vs the closed back with V30.
Madison is one skilled, tasteful, B bendin', country picker. The musicianship was great, that is, knowing when to play, when to give the other guys room and above all, listening.
By the way, anybody want to trade my practically new Celestion G12H 30W American Special Edition for a regular Celestion Vintage 30 (60W) in similar condition? I don't want to push the RXs 45 watts into a speaker designed for 30 watts.
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Post by Bill on Aug 24, 2006 9:33:53 GMT -7
I recognize that green cab ;^) Ya had me cornfused with the head swappin' in that pic!! He has 2 RXES's?? Sweet. Yes Sir if'n we can get RC a 66 we'll have had "Break out" success with the 66, crossed musical boundries. I feel 20 years from now the Route 66 will be a highly coveted "Vintage" amp. Cool pic Bill, Thanks for postin' it. Curt, you and rc don't miss a thing do ya? ...yes, that is yours, formerly Drew's and going back even further...Peach's cabinet. I bought it from Drew and rockstok bought it from me. As great as this little cab is, it's surprising how many times its changed hands. Still in mint condition too. rockstok has another recently acquired square shaped, mint Z 1x12 in black/oxblood. It's all about good timing! rc, as far as OD on the 66, maybe this particular 66 is biased on the hot side...but the RC Booster all knobs at noon gives the fluid, singing sustain in spades. But remember, I'm running all amp knobs at 3:00...any less and possibly a tube screamer would work fine.
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Post by mikep47 on Aug 24, 2006 10:23:17 GMT -7
Wow Bill sounds like you guys had a fun night for sure.Great to see 2 talented musicians like you and Bill R working that well together.Shows your professionalism.Keep them good stories coming guys we all like hearing them. LAter.................... Mike
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Post by Bill on Aug 29, 2006 5:43:17 GMT -7
I've gotta chime in once again about how cool this amp is! It takes me a while to fully form a good opinion on ANY piece of gear. The 66 has been played every day since I got it a couple weeks ago. Truth is, I wouldn't be near as happy with the amp by itself, but with the RC Booster it becomes a whole 'nuther amp! Really gooses it into a fire breathing, juicy & ballsy machine, if you'll pardon the cliches. Not that I use the nasty side THAT much, but have always liked being able to go anywhere from sweet to killer drive without a lot of hassle, multiple pedals, etc...kind of like Jeckyl & Hyde! Surprisingly to me, the fit in alt/country/honky tonk is very good. I always felt CLEAN was the only way to go...when some grit and dirt actually serves the music nicely, as well as helping to "cover up" your own personal shortcomings. I am VERY MUCH looking forward to our first gig when I can truly put it to work. It has the original KT66HP tubes ('98), so guess I better get on the stick and start looking for some replacements...seeing as she'll probably be around for awhile longer.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Aug 29, 2006 6:12:40 GMT -7
By the way, anybody want to trade my practically new Celestion G12H 30W American Special Edition for a regular Celestion Vintage 30 (60W) in similar condition? I don't want to push the RXs 45 watts into a speaker designed for 30 watts. Bill (rockstok), I think I've got a V30 thats in pretty good shape I took out of my Z-best... think it's 16 ohm? I'd rather have another spare G12-H30 myself.... what ohm is yours?? I'd be willing to trade, let me find my V-30 and see what shape it's in... i put it in the weber box after I traded it outta the Z-best...but I think it's like new. BTW Madison and Curt... Thanks alot... yall are making me Z-gas again for the first time in a LONG time for a Route 66... that comparison to a higher powered Ghia is the problem.. and like with the Stingray, I'm kinda liking only "3 knobs"!! just when you think you are OK.... Jason
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Post by guitarstan on Aug 29, 2006 7:31:33 GMT -7
"When you have so many DR Z amps that it's easier to list the ones you DON'T have, you've got Z-GAS!"
That's exactly right Jason, and I'm here to help you with your problem, so just send me one of those Ray's ;D
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Post by drew on Aug 29, 2006 7:43:58 GMT -7
I recognize that green cab ;^) Ya had me cornfused with the head swappin' in that pic!! He has 2 RXES's?? Sweet. Yes Sir if'n we can get RC a 66 we'll have had "Break out" success with the 66, crossed musical boundries. I feel 20 years from now the Route 66 will be a highly coveted "Vintage" amp. Cool pic Bill, Thanks for postin' it. Curt, you and rc don't miss a thing do ya? ...yes, that is yours, formerly Drew's and going back even further...Peach's cabinet. I bought it from Drew and rockstok bought it from me. As great as this little cab is, it's surprising how many times its changed hands. Still in mint condition too. rockstok has another recently acquired square shaped, mint Z 1x12 in black/oxblood. It's all about good timing! rc, as far as OD on the 66, maybe this particular 66 is biased on the hot side...but the RC Booster all knobs at noon gives the fluid, singing sustain in spades. But remember, I'm running all amp knobs at 3:00...any less and possibly a tube screamer would work fine. Great message and pic Bill!!! Wow! That green cab get around, it's a cool cab the should be shared. Great string and Z comradery. Wish I could have been there to join in the fun. Has anyone tried a fatboost with the 66? If Jason's v30 doesn't work out let me know I've a v30 that I'd also trade. Drew
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Post by James on Aug 29, 2006 8:34:35 GMT -7
I agree Curt...........RT 66 will be a classic in 20 yrs, and we all will be geezers showin' up to the gig with our 66's!
This amp is a Mo' Fo' when pushed by p'90's!
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Post by kc on Aug 29, 2006 9:19:44 GMT -7
This amp is a Mo' Fo' when pushed by p'90's! 19jmm68, tell me mo' .... I been thinkin' about putting Fralin p90's in my Les Paul .... I just need a little push ......... what guitar are you playing with p90's thru the 66 ..... and are you using anything to boost the signal? thx. kc
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Post by James on Aug 29, 2006 9:59:21 GMT -7
hey Kc, p-90's thru my '56 reissue goldtop. It's a stellar sound. My fav with the '66 and a happy marriage between humbucker and single coil type tone. I am also thinking 'bout some frailin's as a replacement. They just sound so much mo' open and airy. Like MAdison, the only pedal I use with the '66 is a clean boost. ( RC booster) Play an open chord like an E or a D with a nice even down ward strum and it sounds rich and full and has a sort of "growl" to it.
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Post by Stumpy on Aug 29, 2006 10:23:46 GMT -7
Boy that sure looks like fun in them pictures up there! I can only imagine how well an ES & 66 compliment each other!
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Post by Bill on Aug 29, 2006 10:54:33 GMT -7
Boy that sure looks like fun in them pictures up there! I can only imagine how well an ES & 66 compliment each other! ALWAYS lots 'o fun in that room! Sometimes we even let the ladies join in! ;D
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Post by Curt on Aug 29, 2006 11:02:27 GMT -7
Bill I think the reason you like it best with the RC is those Kinmans do not produce much of a signal to the front end and the RC acts like a pick up booster, you know how those EF86's like a hot signal
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Post by Bill on Aug 29, 2006 11:07:15 GMT -7
Bill I think the reason you like it best with the RC is those Kinmans do not produce much of a signal to the front end and the RC acts like a pick up booster, you know how those EF86's like a hot signal Never thought of that, Curt...makes perfect sense. The RC makes the bridge sound like a P-90!
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Post by Curt on Aug 29, 2006 11:50:42 GMT -7
Gotta love that !!! I have one of the Duncan Stacked (STK-3 ?) in the bridge of my ol '52 RI, Looks...and sounds like a good old Tele pup but humbucker Quiet..but roll on the throttle and it gets edgy right as you dime it, works really nice for what I do, It was in the guitar when I got it and I'm glad 'cause I'd of never tried one otherwise. Sounds KILLER with the 66 but I still use an RC most of the time unless It's one of those "All on 3:00" gigs !!! I later learned it's what Brent Mason Runs in the Bridge Position. BTW, In the middle of this post in walks the FedEx guy....I just unboxed my new Minty KT 45 Gonna be loud at the house tonight !!! Now if RC can just take this Blond 66 off my hands..........gotta replace the fundage !!
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Post by Bill on Aug 29, 2006 12:12:45 GMT -7
:)BTW, In the middle of this post in walks the FedEx guy....I just unboxed my new Minty KT 45 Nice! Time to leave work early, huh?
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Post by rcrecelius on Aug 29, 2006 12:37:30 GMT -7
Now if RC can just take this Blond 66 off my hands..........gotta replace the fundage !! Man, Im a workin on it as hard as I can!
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Post by Curt on Aug 29, 2006 12:41:53 GMT -7
Now if RC can just take this Blond 66 off my hands..........gotta replace the fundage !! Man, Im a workin on it as hard as I can! !! LOL !! I'm just gettin' the quivers Too much spending lately You'll move it soon I'm sure, did not mean to pressure you RC !
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Post by Bill on Aug 29, 2006 12:58:15 GMT -7
Man, Im a workin on it as hard as I can! !! LOL !! I'm just gettin' the quivers Too much spending lately You'll move it soon I'm sure, did not mean to pressure you RC ! I heard that....still working on my "deal", too. Last night my wife asked had I sold the DSL 50 to pay for the 66. Little does she know, the DSL is staying for my son, so *I* can keep the 66 for myself! We all need to win the big LOTTO, make all this Z GAS shenanigans much more tolerable.
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Post by John on Aug 30, 2006 4:29:30 GMT -7
tele62,
I'd be interested in your opinion/review of the KT-45 vs the Route 66.
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