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Post by edoetsch on Feb 6, 2007 13:29:12 GMT -7
I find that my Mazerati begins to breakup at around 10 o'clock on the volume dial. This is where full jazzy bar chords start to get some grit on them.
I have Dimarzo Tone Zone in the bridge which is very hot (DC resistance 17.31) and Air Norton in the neck.
I have a coil tap for both pickups which I use often due to Mazerati's love for single coils. But tapped, the amp still begins to breakup at around 10.
Is this normal or are my pickups the culprit?
I play the amp in a basement and notcie that things around me begin to rattle on settings above 9 o'clock. Could I be hearing this noise as distortion?
I run a 1x12. Do I need 2x12 to get louder cleans without increasing volume above 9?
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Post by Curt on Feb 6, 2007 13:35:05 GMT -7
I just sold mine and with vintage style singles it was clean well past noon.
I'd say those hot pups are it, depending also on the current tube selection.
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Post by wilzgt on Feb 6, 2007 14:09:01 GMT -7
Your pickups are very hot. With my strat my Mazerati starts to breakup around 1pm, and it's barely hairy. Even my Les Paul with mini humbuckers breakup after 12pm. I once owned a SG Special and it caused the amp to breakup sooner due to it's hot pickups---so there ya go.
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Post by edoetsch on Feb 6, 2007 15:07:12 GMT -7
Sounds like I have heavy metal hangover. Guess my hot pickup days are really getting me in trouble now. My other SG has a super distortion which has noticably less gain than the Aformentioned Guitar. That makes for some hot cookin' I have an old Fender Lead II with some stock pickups. I'll have to give that a shot.
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Post by wilzgt on Feb 6, 2007 16:11:50 GMT -7
In general, I find the tone of lower power pickups to work and sound best. For metal, hot pickups are good, but with cleaner tones, those hot pickups sound muddy. Take your Mazerati to a guitar shop and try out a strat, tele, or Les Paul(with burstbucker) and you'll hear the amp sound much more musical. It's a great amp! BTW---I can make my strat scream with the right pedal:)
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Post by edoetsch on Feb 7, 2007 8:37:36 GMT -7
Well I had some Duncan p90 style pickups in the SG for a while and the guitar was too muddy. The Pickups in it now have a much less muddy sound, but perhaps they still are too muddy. Can you recommend a dimarzio replacement that might sound best with a dark sounding SG that are low to miedium output?
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Post by wilzgt on Feb 7, 2007 9:40:41 GMT -7
not in the P90 size. I'd say the Seth Lover or the antiquity would be one's I'd want, but since you have P90's I don't think the regular humbucker would fit. Try looking at their website or heck, give lindy Fralin a look as well. I once played a P90 SG and didn't like the tone at all---too muddy and noisy. It was a new SG so the pickups could have been cheap or something. I prefer Les Pauls and feel the maple tops add brightness to it. Perhaps trade the SG for a Les Paul Studio? Guitar Center has them and my buddy bought one and really likes it. Just a thought...or 2...
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 7, 2007 11:42:41 GMT -7
I had to trade off my Mazerati because there just wasn't enough squeaky clean in it no matter how I swapped tubes around. If you don't want/need a clean clean then it's a great amp. It's perfect with a good Tele bridge pickup.
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Post by Curt on Feb 7, 2007 12:28:05 GMT -7
Amen
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Post by edoetsch on Feb 7, 2007 12:28:25 GMT -7
Sorry to confuse. My SG has standard humbucker size pickups the p90's I had were made to fit in a HB slot.
I also had re-tubed with some JJ tubes and asked eurotubes for ones that would break up earlier.
I put back in the original GT tubes and I can go up to about 11:30 now without breakup.
Gee, I get what I ask for.
I guess another question is, if the amp will break up at a point where signal strength coming from the preamp "X" begins to breaks up the power tubes, will that aparent volume be the same regardless of the pickup used (as long as there is no pre amp distortion)?
Meaning if your vintage pickups cause breakup at noon and my heavy metal monsters cause breakup at 10 o'clock, will the apparent valume of the amp be the same?
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Post by wilzgt on Feb 7, 2007 15:10:20 GMT -7
If I understand right, lets say you have your Mazerati at noon on the volume. With a low output pickup you should get slightly less volume and breakup. With a Metal pickup you'd get more volume and breakup. (Assume the same string guage and pickup height and guitar pots please)
So, your Metal monster would be louder!
I find the Mazerati very clean, but I use stock lower input pickups in my strat and Les Paul deluxe. The SG I used to have was much louder and yes, it did start breaking up much sooner.
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 8, 2007 5:39:45 GMT -7
Curt ,I didnt get screwed on this amp did I ? :} Im playing out with it Sat night . cant wait.
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Post by Curt on Feb 8, 2007 12:42:11 GMT -7
Curt ,I didnt get screwed on this amp did I ? :} Im playing out with it Sat night . cant wait. Oh HELL no ! This is what I was commenting on ! "It's perfect with a good Tele bridge pickup. "And you have a GREAT Tele Bridge pick up
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 9, 2007 6:11:55 GMT -7
Curt ,I didnt get screwed on this amp did I ? :} Im playing out with it Sat night . cant wait. Oh HELL no ! This is what I was commenting on ! "It's perfect with a good Tele bridge pickup. "And you have a GREAT Tele Bridge pick up I knew that ....................and yes that bridge its a killa
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 14, 2007 2:03:50 GMT -7
this amp must be cranked unless your looking for a Don Rich tone
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Post by bookmobile on Feb 21, 2007 19:19:05 GMT -7
Well I had some Duncan p90 style pickups in the SG for a while and the guitar was too muddy. The Pickups in it now have a much less muddy sound, but perhaps they still are too muddy. Can you recommend a dimarzio replacement that might sound best with a dark sounding SG that are low to miedium output? I have a Gold Top with Gibson P-90's and I like hem better than Duncan's or Frailin's. For all other pickup styles, I like Duncan's and Frailin's better. I also like P-90's better than P-100's. They just sound more natural to me. As far as the Mazerati breakup, pickups are hald the battle. You may need more than 1-12 to stay cleaner longer. That, or get a higher wattage (cleaner) speaker.
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