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Post by F1sh on May 17, 2005 8:29:17 GMT -7
Anyone like to compair the 2 for me?
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Post by kaseri on May 17, 2005 9:32:27 GMT -7
I currently own a Ghia but have never owned or played a Mazarati. From what I understand the Mazarati is essentially a higher powered ghia. I would assume that the Mazarati has more clean headroom since it's higher powered. The tone would be slightly different because of this as well. If you like the sound of the Ghia but need more power I would say the Mazarati is your best choice.
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Post by bukowski on May 18, 2005 6:15:57 GMT -7
I have the mazerati head and zbest cab ,I tried the ghia but I needed more headroom ,the ghia is more gainy (I want a ghia when I have the funds)the rati has to be turned up pretty loud before you start hearing and feeling grit and the power tubes workin but when you use a good boost or overdrive man it can rock out I play clean alot and use a keeley modded sparkle drive for some attitude ,when I get a ghia it will go like this : medium to small club blues /rock /funk/whaterver gig grab the ghia :outdoor not miked ,jazz /country reggae whatever gig bring rati ;scenario 3 aliens have landed bring ghia rati turn up all the way and smile ;D
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Post by kaseri on May 18, 2005 7:15:00 GMT -7
scenario 3 aliens have landed bring ghia rati turn up all the way and smile ;D ;D
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Post by myles on May 22, 2005 16:08:05 GMT -7
I have the mazerati head and zbest cab ,I tried the ghia but I needed more headroom ,the ghia is more gainy (I want a ghia when I have the funds)the rati has to be turned up pretty loud before you start hearing and feeling grit and the power tubes workin but when you use a good boost or overdrive man it can rock out I play clean alot and use a keeley modded sparkle drive for some attitude ,when I get a ghia it will go like this : medium to small club blues /rock /funk/whaterver gig grab the ghia :outdoor not miked ,jazz /country reggae whatever gig bring rati ;scenario 3 aliens have landed bring ghia rati turn up all the way and smile ;D bukowski ..... Pretty good call. The Ghia is a lot more gainy than the Mazerati and to me anyway, the two amps are very different. I find the tone filter on the Ghia is different also. Better or worse? They both work great, just different. The Ghia is a very loud amp for it's wattage (or when compared to amps of much higher wattage). Try cutting back a bit on the guitar's volume knob and watch how nicely the Ghia cleans up. The Mazerati is a very versitile amp. It will probably be more versitile to many more people than a Ghia may be. The Mazerati has a lot of output (stronger than any AC-30 I have played as an example) but it can also cover Vox tones really nicely. The Mazerati can can also get huge crunch rhythm tones as you'll get on a Marshall JTM-50 as an example. The lack of a lot of circuitry and knobs in the signal path also make each of these amps very very very touch sensitive and you will not notice your sustain die off a little in certain areas as the tone is moved as is more common in amps with three tone pots. Both are cool amps but are different. One of each is actually less pricy than many of today's single amps of high calibre tone and hand wired construction today. For folks in the Los Angeles area; you are welcome to play with my Ghia and Mazerati side by side and also compare them to amps from many other makers. I am not a store so there is no pressure to buy anything and there is no time constraint. If we go on for more than a few hours I generally break to eat and there are a lot of places within 5 minutes.
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Post by bukowski on May 23, 2005 6:45:10 GMT -7
hi myles good to see you here, I have a picture of my mazerati head and zbest in blonde on your site,you also gave me some great tips on tubes ,I ended up using a rca 5751 blackplate in v1 and v2 and tesla nos el84s and a bugle boy 5ar4(amperex)from mike at kca,(awesome tubes and guy to deal with)new production tubes sound good ,but those blackplates sound nice smooth ,,I'm no good with the adjectives I dig 'em I like the Idea of setin an amp up and not having to worry those nos ,do out last ,new production in most cases ,now its a toss up between a z28 or ghia ,and if the dr comes out with a cool 6l6 amp I'm really screwed
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Post by myles on May 23, 2005 9:14:36 GMT -7
hi myles good to see you here, I have a picture of my mazerati head and zbest in blonde on your site,you also gave me some great tips on tubes ,I ended up using a rca 5751 blackplate in v1 and v2 and tesla nos el84s and a bugle boy 5ar4(amperex)from mike at kca,(awesome tubes and guy to deal with)new production tubes sound good ,but those blackplates sound nice smooth ,,I'm no good with the adjectives I dig 'em I like the Idea of setin an amp up and not having to worry those nos ,do out last ,new production in most cases ,now its a toss up between a z28 or ghia ,and if the dr comes out with a cool 6l6 amp I'm really screwed bukowski Thanks for the welcome. I think this will be a very cool site! I like the layout quite a bit too. I like 5751's in lots of places myself. In a MAZ Sr I use them at times in V1 and the phase inverter. I get all my 5751's from Mike at www.kcanostubes.com He has a great inventory and nice prices. He also uses a VTV tester and will match them for you. On the Ghia vs Z-28 ..... URGH! Hard call to say the least. I am really partial to Ghias when I want to have an agressive tone or blues crunch tone. The Ghia is my favorite amp, and not just favorite Z amp, but favorite amp of anything I own. BUT ... The Z-28 is an amp that I love when I want to get Fender tones. It loves pedals and changing the phase inverter from a 12AX7 to 5751 and visa versa gives you two different amps. The tone controls on the Z-28 are also effective as gain controls on the front end. That makes the amp even more versitile. A very cool setup I use is a cab switcher with a Z Best and then a Z-28 and Ghia in a switching rig. On the 6L6 thing .... I was talking to a friend from Nashville on Friday and we talked Z stuff a lot. He was saying that the one amp that is not in the Z line is a 6L6 amp and he'd love to see one. He uses a lot of Z stuff himself and worked for a guy for many years that may be one of the most well known Z users.
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Post by cementman on Jun 11, 2005 6:12:46 GMT -7
i geuss dr z doesnt want to make 6L6 toned amps. maybe there are too many of them. i did see a z-28 for sale in nashville once that was biased for 6L6's. i owned a mazerati made in 2000. it is different than the newer models. a lot dirtier. before that i owned two ghias. my problem was i never got the spkr combo right. i would buy a jenkins 2/10 cab with, say, a fane alnico and ceramic and use it with a kt45 head, and it just didnt sound just right for me. on the other hand the mazerati sounded great with anything. amp spkr combo is crucial and it took me a long time to get it right. there are lots of spkrs out there. the mazerati has got basically one tone, but it is a great one. i own a z-28 now, its a 4/10 but wixh it was a 2/10. very heavy. but it is a keeper. what i am really impressed with is, the price for a z amp is reasonable compared to many amps. even tubes have gone up in price and so z amps go up some, but they are still lower than many booteeks out there. i wouldnt hesistate to buy one new. i talked to the owner of a guitar shop in dallas, and he said they cannot keep z's in. even when i was there a few weeks ago someone called on the phone and was looking for one. all he had was a ghia head and z best cab. one shop in north carolina has all the z amps in stock for in store play only, then you can decide which one to order. too bad there are not more places like that in every state. i have owned 2 ghias, mazerati, route 66,mainly heads and never got the cabinets lined up right. so now i have 2 combos, and z-28 and a maz 38 senior combo. i like the ability to use the tone controls on the senior to change the voice of the amp. it is a big big amp. too loud for most folks. all the z amps sound different. components sometimes go bad on any new amp, they cant be screened. i have had that experience on a couple of z amps. filters, ghost noises, etc but have had nothing but good turnarounds with dr z amplification. i am glad there are dr z amps.
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Post by Laroosco!! on Jun 13, 2005 8:46:17 GMT -7
My next Z will be a Mazerati. I love this amp. One of the sweetest souning I've heard.
I owned a Ghia and while it's a phenominal amp it is a different amp that the Rati. Not nearly enough headroom for me.
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Post by myles on Jun 16, 2005 12:50:44 GMT -7
hi myles good to see you here, I have a picture of my mazerati head and zbest in blonde on your site,you also gave me some great tips on tubes ,I ended up using a rca 5751 blackplate in v1 and v2 and tesla nos el84s and a bugle boy 5ar4(amperex)from mike at kca,(awesome tubes and guy to deal with)new production tubes sound good ,but those blackplates sound nice smooth ,,I'm no good with the adjectives I dig 'em I like the Idea of setin an amp up and not having to worry those nos ,do out last ,new production in most cases ,now its a toss up between a z28 or ghia ,and if the dr comes out with a cool 6l6 amp I'm really screwed I think your Mazerati rig is prettier than mine but here is a shot that sort of blocks the amp but the amp loves the guitars in the shot:
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Post by bukowski on Jun 18, 2005 6:00:39 GMT -7
hey myles it would be cool if you could post my blonde hear I still got to figure out how to do that ,just the other day I went on a tube swapp'in binge mullard .jj , sovtek ge ,12ax7 but I keep coming back to the rca blackplates 5751 ,in v1 and v2 maybe I should keep that a secret.... how many of those are still around ,and ideas myles ? n.o.s that is 1000 or less ?
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Post by Beckanon on Jun 20, 2005 16:33:48 GMT -7
Myles...the red tele. It looks alot like my yellow '99 Tele. What kind of pickups are those?
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Post by myles on Jun 21, 2005 8:17:12 GMT -7
hey myles it would be cool if you could post my blonde hear I still got to figure out how to do that ,just the other day I went on a tube swapp'in binge mullard .jj , sovtek ge ,12ax7 but I keep coming back to the rca blackplates 5751 ,in v1 and v2 maybe I should keep that a secret.... how many of those are still around ,and ideas myles ? n.o.s that is 1000 or less ? Mike at KCA has a lot of them. On posting your blonde? What are you saying here.
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Post by myles on Jun 21, 2005 8:22:16 GMT -7
Myles...the red tele. It looks alot like my yellow '99 Tele. What kind of pickups are those? The pickups were wound by Seymour Duncan back in the late 80s as copies of the pickups he did for Roy Buchanan on his later Telecaster. This pix may be a bit better:
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