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Post by TheRetreat on Nov 13, 2008 9:28:36 GMT -7
I love my Air Brake -- incredibly useful in taming my wild Maz -- but what is in there that makes it have to be so big?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Nov 13, 2008 10:20:19 GMT -7
Some big ole resistors! Here's the inside of mine:
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Post by Shannon on Nov 14, 2008 18:05:28 GMT -7
It's big so I won't lose it.
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -7
It is too big and it needs to be addressed.Change the shape of the enclosure. It looks like a retro military prop.Perhaps offer a new product.If it the way it is for heat,go with cooiling fins.
I want to buy one but I'm afraid it's going to be a THD Hot Plate.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Nov 16, 2008 14:37:11 GMT -7
It's not the size of the Airbrake, it's how you use it.
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 14:47:58 GMT -7
It's not the size of the Airbrake, it's how you use it. nyuk nyuk
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Nov 16, 2008 15:27:14 GMT -7
It is too big and it needs to be addressed.Change the shape of the enclosure. It looks like a retro military prop.Perhaps offer a new product.If it the way it is for heat,go with cooiling fins. I want to buy one but I'm afraid it's going to be a THD Hot Plate. I'm not the biggest fan of the packaging of the Airbrake, but I AM the biggest fan of how it sounds. I have two Airbrakes and three Hot Plates, and I'm here to tell you the Aibrake sounds better on Dr. Z amps than the Hot Plates do. But I'm a picky SOB - you might not hear any difference at all. If you're interested though, I have recordings of both here: drzamplifiers.proboards41.com/index.cgi?board=soundfiles&action=display&thread=6624&page=1 - check the whole thread.
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Post by troutstrat on Nov 16, 2008 15:39:13 GMT -7
I threw mine in the back of my open 1x12 cab and secured it with a clamp and wing nut. I didn't see it again until trying to look up some chicks skirt next to the stage and glanced down and saw my Airbrake. Hard to decide on keeping to the original course or keep looking at my Airbrake.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Nov 16, 2008 16:05:30 GMT -7
I threw mine in the back of my open 1x12 cab and secured it with a clamp and wing nut. I didn't see it again until trying to look up some chicks skirt next to the stage and glanced down and saw my Airbrake. Hard to decide on keeping to the original course or keep looking at my Airbrake. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 17:22:14 GMT -7
It is too big and it needs to be addressed.Change the shape of the enclosure. It looks like a retro military prop.Perhaps offer a new product.If it the way it is for heat,go with cooiling fins. I want to buy one but I'm afraid it's going to be a THD Hot Plate. I'm not the biggest fan of the packaging of the Airbrake, but I AM the biggest fan of how it sounds. I have two Airbrakes and three Hot Plates, and I'm here to tell you the Aibrake sounds better on Dr. Z amps than the Hot Plates do. But I'm a picky SOB - you might not hear any difference at all. If you're interested though, I have recordings of both here: drzamplifiers.proboards41.com/index.cgi?board=soundfiles&action=display&thread=6624&page=1 - check the whole thread. Yes I understand that it is going to provide the best result my complaint about size isn't about aesthetic (though it is a dog compared to a THD) It's purely practical: "Where am I going to put it?" **FAIR WARNING**: If someone offers the most obvious solutions I'm gonna be a smarty pants.(though "up my keister" is quite acceptable) I don't have a combo and no I'm not giving it it's own furniture either. I think I will have to make my own enclosure for the parts. Hmm I think I will call it "The Caliper"(TM) Give it some other practical features and sell it with instructions to airbrake owners who want to "upgrade" thier "'brakes" ahhh necessity...
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Post by Lefty on Nov 16, 2008 19:09:30 GMT -7
I'm sure the size is just what is required. If anyone knows, Doc doesn't make things "just because". And it's not coincidence that it sits perfectly on top of the amp straddling the handle and all.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Nov 16, 2008 19:41:19 GMT -7
You put it on top your amp, just like any other attenuator. I'm not getting what the problem is... Here's my setup with TWO Airbrakes on top:
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 19:51:31 GMT -7
I'm sure the size is just what is required. If anyone knows, Doc doesn't make things "just because". And it's not coincidence that it sits perfectly on top of the amp straddling the handle and all. Believe me I fully understand. It sits there well alright like a 'lil cash/tool box,stable, with it's controls accessible. It just takes too much real estate on the amp top. I use the top of the amp fer other stuff (no beverages)both in a static and dynamic sense. Obviously, I'm not the only one who has that issue. It could stand to be a bit more practible.I think an available secondary configuration is not an unreasonable desire/request. Green-Z
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Post by jordanbunte on Nov 16, 2008 19:52:59 GMT -7
You put it on top your amp, just like any other attenuator. I'm not getting what the problem is... Here's my setup with TWO Airbrakes on top: Doesn't bother me at all either.
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 20:05:40 GMT -7
You put it on top your amp, just like any other attenuator. I'm not getting what the problem is... Here's my setup with TWO Airbrakes on top: **FAIR WARNING**: If someone offers the most obvious solutions I'm gonna be a smarty pants. THUSLY Comprehension apprently is what the problems is here. No I thought it was designed to fit under the amp. I'm glad that works for you and you like it turned sideways.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Nov 16, 2008 21:28:12 GMT -7
No I thought it was designed to fit under the amp. Dang, why didn't I think of that? I like your sense of humor even if I don't get the problem.
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Post by greenz on Nov 16, 2008 22:41:47 GMT -7
No I thought it was designed to fit under the amp. Dang, why didn't I think of that? I like your sense of humor even if I don't get the problem. I'm glad, it gets better as the responses get off the ground. No you don't have the problem anymore you created a work around to the problem -you turned it sideways.Except now you have cable sticking forward. THD,Weber and Bad Cat designs all took into account space.I have been given the impression the Leash is as good or better than the Airbrake. I could fit 3 or 4 BC Leashes on a Z amp Handy if I was stacking 2 3 or 4 Z's. Anyways, I think I made my point.
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Post by Lefty on Nov 17, 2008 8:40:53 GMT -7
Then buy a Leash.
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Post by greenz on Nov 17, 2008 13:28:36 GMT -7
Don't tell me what I should do!! lol have you had your coffee yet? Actually the leash will probably be my choice now that I've seen the gut shots of both devices they are in the same ball park. The one rheostat control is nice.Impedance selector and the jacks all in the right place.Shape suits my set up. In this application, function is far more imporant than form and looks wouldn't sway me in the least but it doesn't hurt that the Leash looks foxy in her lil black dress
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Post by Lefty on Nov 17, 2008 13:45:24 GMT -7
FYI Doc is coming out with a smaller version of the AirBrake, it's meant to be mounted in combo's (last I heard) but definitely smaller in size.
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Post by gheston on Nov 18, 2008 11:18:29 GMT -7
Lefty,
It doesn't fit properly at all.
Where'd you get your amps? ;D
Geoff
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Post by hogridr on Nov 18, 2008 11:54:36 GMT -7
Actually the leash will probably be my choice now that I've seen the gut shots of both devices they are in the same ball park. Let's see the gut shot of the Leash...
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Post by edoetsch on Nov 18, 2008 14:32:10 GMT -7
Some big ole resistors! Here's the inside of mine: The Mini has two of these thingys coming out of the chassis.
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Post by Shannon on Nov 19, 2008 20:14:48 GMT -7
I've actually never even thought about the size of the Brake. I sit it on the top sideways and it leaves room for me to put other stuff beside it. In fact, when I use it with my Ghia or Delta and a larger cab, it fits perfectly beside the head. In either case, never has anyone come to me after a set and said "You sound great, but what's with that big thing with the cable sticking forward?"
But I do get ripped for playing a PANK strat. Sure does sound good though. ;D
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Post by sudsysul on Nov 25, 2008 7:38:15 GMT -7
FYI Doc is coming out with a smaller version of the AirBrake, it's meant to be mounted in combo's (last I heard) but definitely smaller in size. But what kind of wattage will it handle?
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Post by Lefty on Nov 25, 2008 11:26:53 GMT -7
FYI Doc is coming out with a smaller version of the AirBrake, it's meant to be mounted in combo's (last I heard) but definitely smaller in size. But what kind of wattage will it handle? 50W
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Post by peteg on Nov 25, 2008 15:59:22 GMT -7
Sorry to be pedantic - but on another thread Myles has confirmed that the Maz SR puts out between 50 and 55 watts - despite being called "38". I'm interested in the smaller Airbrake for my Maz SR NR 2 X 10 combo, but will it handle the output??
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Post by DRZ on Nov 25, 2008 17:46:08 GMT -7
Sorry to be pedantic - but on another thread Myles has confirmed that the Maz SR puts out between 50 and 55 watts - despite being called "38". I'm interested in the smaller Airbrake for my Maz SR NR 2 X 10 combo, but will it handle the output?? Yes it will. Just remember : RMS Wattage =Peak Wattage x .707. So RMS Wattage = 55 watts peak x .707 RMS Wattage = 38.8 watts I have run the "BRAKE LITE " for over 4 hours connected to a MAZ 38 NR at peak output with peak attenuation, gets a bit warm but no problem. The unit will handle 100 Watts but I rate it safely at 50 watts. And remember the speaker load is still a part of the Total Dissipation. Z
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Post by Don on Nov 25, 2008 21:08:18 GMT -7
I have absolutely no problem placing my Air Brake on top of any of my Zs. It seems to fit perfectly up there, and is so easily accessible. And as previously stated, they work seemlessly with Dr Z amps. Is that such a surprise?
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Post by peteg on Nov 26, 2008 1:20:26 GMT -7
Cool, thanks for the reply Doc - like the name BTW.
So how does it fit in a combo? - what about ease of access to the controls? - any plans for a fan if it gets warm? - what's the likely price? - when can I get one?
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