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Post by Jan on Jul 3, 2008 1:13:12 GMT -7
Hey Galaxie combo tone slingers, and all you other Galaxie tone slingers, just how Greenback does the Heritage G12-65 sound? I have a pretty good memory of Greenbacks I had in the 70s and it is a flavor I want back in the house. I just got a pair of the current 25 Watt versions from your friend and mine, Jason. I have a job lined up for them but I want something in that same tone'ville that can handle the Galaxie with a single 12". I am mighty tempted to try out one of the 25 Watt versions by their lonesome with the Galaxie, but I know better than to tempt the I'll-burn-your-coils-down gods too much.
If you have some recent experience with the G12-65 versus the Weber equivalent, please tell us about that too. Open? Closed? Ported? And hey, if you have a minty G12-65 collecting dust, make me an offer I cannot refuse.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Jul 3, 2008 1:20:07 GMT -7
Jan, I don't have any experience with this speaker. But, as I understand it, this is the one Doc designed the Galaxie around for JW. If there is such a thing as designing an amp around a speaker. I think Groover has 1, or the Weber equivalent. You might ask him. I DO know he has a kick arse Galaxie. I played it for a month or so.
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Post by groovergeorge on Jul 3, 2008 3:54:10 GMT -7
Jan, I don't have any experience with this speaker. But, as I understand it, this is the one Doc designed the Galaxie around for JW. If there is such a thing as designing an amp around a speaker. I think Groover has 1, or the Weber equivalent. You might ask him. I DO know he has a kick arse Galaxie. I played it for a month or so. Quote: "I played it for a month or so." HAHAHAHHAA ;D I actually haven't got one at present, I'm just getting by with a single greenback and my z28 until I can afford a alnico weber version for the Galaxie. I did however have one in a Rivera combo back in the late 80's. The G12 65 is an unbelievably great speaker that is so versatile. It runs at 97 db which isn't too loud but can handle a good 50 watts so it's equally good as a single driver in a combo like a chieftan but then also will be fine to be used in a pair in a 2x12 too . It's true they are very greenback like but with a tighter overall tone especially in the bass section. I guess it's kind of like comparing a blue to a gold celestion alnico. If you want greenback and nothing will suffice then get greenback but if you want a similar tone with a little bit of a different flavour then go the G12 -65's. They were used extensively by lots of rockers in the 80's before everyone jumped on the vintage 30 wagon.
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Post by Jan on Jul 3, 2008 13:29:51 GMT -7
Thanks, guys. A little more tightness on the bass end would not be a bad thing. I have not heard a Galaxie combo - mine is a head. I do generally prefer Greenbacks in closed cabinets, maybe ported depending on how it is done. But my experiences were with 4 x 12, not 1 x 12 cabinets. I am getting closer to having room in my basement shop to begin some 1 x 12 construction experiments. I still have not figured out how I am going to hide a whole bunch of these cabinets once I get them built. Please let us know how the Weber works out when you get it. I generally prefer AlNiCo speakers, Greenbacks being the big exception. Hmm, citing it as a speaker of the 80's gives me a little pause. Being a 60's and 70's kind of guy, I confess that all that big hair music in the 80's was painful to live through. I should include a smiley here somewhere, but no kidding, the 80's were mostly a cultural wasteland for me musically.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Jul 3, 2008 13:35:39 GMT -7
Got the Galaxie combo with the G12-65. I like it. I like it alot. I really like it. I really, really like it alot. ;D While I do not have much experience using the Greenback, I can say that there is plenty o' tone available with the Gal combo .... even when I'm makin' noise, eh! And, just for some extra fun .... I like to hook-up my Z 210 cab via the speaker extension on the back of the combo. WOOO-HOOOO ;D ;D ;D cheers always, eh Joel p.s. I would like sometime, though, to hook up a nice 412 to this amp and see how much I can rile up the neighbours, eh
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Post by Jan on Jul 5, 2008 12:30:40 GMT -7
Hey Joel, with the Z-Best they can here me *way* down the street.
I thought of another twist last night while checking prices on a G12-65, what about Weber's British series 1265? Ted does not list efficiency numbers. However, he does say that the Ceramic 1265 has more headroom and is louder than the AlNiCo 1265. So, the AlNiCo is sounding better for my lower volume needs, except for the price of course.
Is the Weber 1265 the one you are waiting for, Groover?
Time to go read Ask Ted in the expert section to see if he has answered this one before.
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Post by blackice on Jul 5, 2008 14:00:53 GMT -7
I have Jensen Blackbird in my Galaxie 1x12 combo. I like the G1265 but I need something a little less bright.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Jul 5, 2008 17:29:38 GMT -7
Hey Joel, with the Z-Best they can here me *way* down the street. I thought of another twist last night while checking prices on a G12-65, what about Weber's British series 1265? Ted does not list efficiency numbers. However, he does say that the Ceramic 1265 has more headroom and is louder than the AlNiCo 1265. So, the AlNiCo is sounding better for my lower volume needs, except for the price of course. Is the Weber 1265 the one you are waiting for, Groover? Time to go read Ask Ted in the expert section to see if he has answered this one before. 112 combo + Z-best cab? I think I may have some G.A.S. goin' on, eh ;D ;D thanks for the idea ... gotta go place an order at L&M cheers always, eh Joel
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Post by groovergeorge on Jul 6, 2008 4:04:27 GMT -7
Hey Joel, with the Z-Best they can here me *way* down the street. I thought of another twist last night while checking prices on a G12-65, what about Weber's British series 1265? Ted does not list efficiency numbers. However, he does say that the Ceramic 1265 has more headroom and is louder than the AlNiCo 1265. So, the AlNiCo is sounding better for my lower volume needs, except for the price of course. Is the Weber 1265 the one you are waiting for, Groover? Time to go read Ask Ted in the expert section to see if he has answered this one before. Sorry for the late response; but yes, the Weber version is what I'd like to buy. I'm thinking alnico.
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Post by zimmer on Jul 6, 2008 19:35:20 GMT -7
+1 for the Weber 1265 alnico and the Galaxie.
It's been the house speaker of choice after a couple of other competitors fell back in the running.
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Post by Jan on Jul 6, 2008 20:36:16 GMT -7
I appreciate the feedback. Oy, this is all good. Alas, I cannot afford to buy both for a personal taste test. Even one is pushing it right now but I need to stop whining about how loud the Galaxie is and get back to grooving on how fabulous it sounds. And that means getting a significantly lower than 100 dB efficiency speaker in the house. I may dither a bit more and toss a coin.
I gather most of you are talking about either the combo cabinet or open-backed. Interesting, because I thing most Greenback fans like them in a closed cabinet (and a 4 x 12 one).
Blackice, was that the Celestion or Webber (ceramic or AlNiCo flavor)? Single coil or humbuckers?
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