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Post by randalp3000 on Jul 26, 2011 8:43:58 GMT -7
just wondering which z amps are ultralinear? I just got #2 , prescription rx and stang ray. Now looking for another and i would like to try one with an ultralinear output section.
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Post by John on Jul 26, 2011 9:58:08 GMT -7
Route 66...the only one I know of. Not saying the Rx and 'Ray are not....just never heard of it.
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Post by DRZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:52:30 GMT -7
Route 66 SRZ 65 Delta 88 And some KT 45's
Use a Ulta-Linear Output transformer.
Z
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 26, 2011 11:01:46 GMT -7
Route 66 SRZ 65 Delta 88 And some KT 45's Use a Ulta-Linear Output transformer. Z 6545??? ;D
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Post by randalp3000 on Jul 26, 2011 12:01:22 GMT -7
Great, now i have to buy another one. Does it add more headroom to the power section???
just picked up a ghia an hour ago, can't wait to hear it.
thanks for the info.
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Post by Jan on Jul 26, 2011 13:49:50 GMT -7
And some KT 45'sSome? Okay, now you are just being a tease.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 14:43:02 GMT -7
Great, now i have to buy another one. Does it add more headroom to the power section??? just picked up a ghia an hour ago, can't wait to hear it. thanks for the info. It definitely gives the amp more of a Hi-fi sound.
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Post by DRZ on Jul 26, 2011 18:33:02 GMT -7
Route 66 SRZ 65 Delta 88 And some KT 45's Use a Ulta-Linear Output transformer. Z 6545??? ;D DUH.... I forgot the 6545 yes it was UL. Thanks Jag. DR.Z
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Post by randalp3000 on Jul 27, 2011 15:57:17 GMT -7
New kt45's or old ones??
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Post by timford on Aug 4, 2011 19:49:59 GMT -7
Yeah, I'm with you. I'd like to hear the answer to that one from the big horse himself (at least from the horses mouth) Then I might have to get another KT just to hear the difference.......
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Post by scotty on Aug 4, 2011 23:37:37 GMT -7
Forgive my ignorance, but... What is ultra-linear?
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Aug 4, 2011 23:44:02 GMT -7
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Aug 5, 2011 3:47:23 GMT -7
Forgive my ignorance, but... What is ultra-linear? To put it more simply than the articles Mike referenced: it's sort of a negative feedback loop involving special windings on the output transformer and the screen grids of the tubes. It tends to smooth out the response and kind of gives you a sound from a pentode that kind of sounds like a triode. Here's what Dr. Z said in ToneQuest about it years ago: "Sonically, it makes the amp respond like a triode because the screen and the plate are very close to the same potential, so you get no cross over notch, and the smooth, rich sound of a triode but with the power of a pentode. It’s also kind of articulate—you hear the primary note and the harmonics without any mushiness, like with a Hiwatt, for example. I suppose I also just wanted to do something different. It’s always difficult to describe the tone of my amps because people want to know, “Does it sound like a Marshall or does it sound like a Fender?” I just know that a lot of recording artists like the originality of the sound of my amps because they tell me, “Man, that’s the sound I’ve had in my head, and I could never get it out of a Marshall or a Fender.” It’s been more difficult, because it would have been easier to copy an amp like a Bassman, but I didn’t want to do that—I never did. It’s already been done. It’s like music…certainly, you learn from the past and it influences you, but you want something original that builds on the things that have come before." Ultralinear kind of got a bad name with us guitarists because of the '70s silverface UL Fender amps that sounded like poo. That had very little to do with the ultralinear output section...the rest of the amp was very poorly designed IMO.
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Post by bradtfw on Aug 5, 2011 5:45:16 GMT -7
Route 66 SRZ 65 Delta 88 And some KT 45's Use a Ulta-Linear Output transformer. Z As a new (2003) KT-45 owner, I am also interested in determining when Ultra-Linear transformers were used. It won't make me like or dislike my amp any more, but it would be interesting to know. EDIT: After reading some posts dating back 2+ years there seems to be a correlation between the model 8001 and 9001 transformers and the Ultra-Linear designation. It appears that sometime in 2004 the KT-45 started sporting a model 9001 transformer. Some have reported hearing subtle differences, but it is uncertain if the transformer alone causes these differences.
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Post by randalp3000 on Aug 8, 2011 15:02:08 GMT -7
Glad to see that this is finally getting some dialogue. I think I'm going to pick up the KT on the gear page. It's a 2004 and I really hope it is ultra-linear, I'm very interested in hearing one.
thanks guys rp
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Post by scotty on Aug 10, 2011 0:30:21 GMT -7
Thanks Mike and Phil!
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 11, 2011 6:07:38 GMT -7
DC here! Yeah - ultralinear it's where it's at - Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by troutstrat on Aug 11, 2011 10:33:59 GMT -7
Forgive my ignorance, but... What is ultra-linear? To put it more simply than the articles Mike referenced: it's sort of a negative feedback loop involving special windings on the output transformer and the screen grids of the tubes. It tends to smooth out the response and kind of gives you a sound from a pentode that kind of sounds like a triode. Here's what Dr. Z said in ToneQuest about it years ago: "Sonically, it makes the amp respond like a triode because the screen and the plate are very close to the same potential, so you get no cross over notch, and the smooth, rich sound of a triode but with the power of a pentode. It’s also kind of articulate—you hear the primary note and the harmonics without any mushiness, like with a Hiwatt, for example. I suppose I also just wanted to do something different. It’s always difficult to describe the tone of my amps because people want to know, “Does it sound like a Marshall or does it sound like a Fender?” I just know that a lot of recording artists like the originality of the sound of my amps because they tell me, “Man, that’s the sound I’ve had in my head, and I could never get it out of a Marshall or a Fender.” It’s been more difficult, because it would have been easier to copy an amp like a Bassman, but I didn’t want to do that—I never did. It’s already been done. It’s like music…certainly, you learn from the past and it influences you, but you want something original that builds on the things that have come before." +1Million for the DRZ quote.
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Post by randalp3000 on Aug 14, 2011 14:43:15 GMT -7
Any final word on the KT-45 yet? That's the next one I'm going to get and I need to know what to look for.
thanks guys rp
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Post by pintail78 on Nov 11, 2011 7:51:26 GMT -7
i just picked up a 1999 KT-45 does that one have the UL tranny How do you tell isnt it the 8001/9001 thang???
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Post by randalp3000 on Dec 18, 2011 17:14:55 GMT -7
i just picked up a 1999 KT-45 does that one have the UL tranny How do you tell isnt it the 8001/9001 thang??? Sorry but those are power transformers. My KT (#14) has the ultra linear output trans but the UL taps are shrink wrapped and tucked between the trans and chassis. Very interesting indeed.
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