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Post by sonicbluepaisley on Feb 28, 2006 17:59:43 GMT -7
I have heard many people talk about ghost notes on guitars and was wondering what they meant? Like here is a quote on the Mazeriti Amp page and was really wondering what a ghost note is?
"Finally, I increased the power supply filtering to eliminate any hint of Ghost Notes..."
Thanks for helping me out
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Post by sonicbluepaisley on Mar 31, 2006 10:27:05 GMT -7
Brought up this old post...
can anybody tell me what a ghost note is?
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 31, 2006 11:23:51 GMT -7
Hi Sonic. I'll try to explain it in simple, basic terms. I'm sure there is a detailed explanation of the electro/mechanical physics involved, but I'll let somebody else tackle that.
A ghost not is when you play a note on an electric guitar through an amp and you hear your note plus additional notes or overtones simultaneously. They generally aren't as loud as the fundamental note. My Maz 38 does this on certain notes and especially when bending double stops on the b & g strings. This can be caused by the amp itself, and also by the cone of a speaker. Thinner British type cones are infamous for this.
That's my short explanation. ;D
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Post by sonicbluepaisley on Mar 31, 2006 11:42:45 GMT -7
K thanks a lot for the response.
Karma for ya
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Post by billyguitar on Mar 31, 2006 11:44:23 GMT -7
Like guitarman1 says this is an amp thing, not a guitar thing. There are three different sounds that seem similar but are different: 1) Cone Cry or edge yowl. This happens typically when you play a note, usually higher than the 12th fret on the high E string. You'll hear a weird screaming, discordant sound at the same time as you play the note, especially if you bend or vibrato the note. The louder you play the more you'll notice it. Almost all Celestions do it but some other speakers do it too. For instance, I have a 1950 Fender Pro amp with a field coil (electromagnet) Jensen 15" speaker. It has a super thin cone and it does it real bad. 2) Ghost note. This is a following tone that you hear that is lower in level and lower in pitch than the note you're playing. Usually blamed on inadequate filtering in the power supply. I, myself, don't really know what causes it. 3) The third effect is what's heard on the Maz 38 with the preamp cranked. A lot of amps do this and is considered normal. I remember hearing that on cranked amps 30 years ago. What I'm talking about is when you hold one note on one string and bend another at the same time, most obvious on high notes. What you hear is a note lower in pitch and level than the notes you're playing and seem to go in the opposite direction. As you bend up you'll hear this "difference" note going down. Amps with nice big output transformers seem to do it the most. Turn the bass down and it'll reduce the effect. It's a normal thing to overdriven amps.
This help?
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Post by sonicbluepaisley on Mar 31, 2006 11:49:12 GMT -7
That also has helped, thanks a lot guys, has cleared things up for me.
Really appreciate it.
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